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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2012 16:38 
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As above BBC1 from tomorrow, probably 4 weeks with Griff Rhys Jones


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 Post subject: Britain's Lost Routes - heads up
PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 20:42 
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In the highlands tonight. Feature on the old A87 and now in Glen Coe.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 04:36 
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Sounds quite interesting, albeit a little over-dramatic as most documentaries are these days, but I cannot access iPlayer from Australia. Any tips for a foreigner?


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It was quite good :). Like most documentaries these days it was as much about what the presenter is doing at that moment, e.g. the comedy aspect of him hearding cows, as much as it is about the matter in hand, but I enjoyed it and I learned lots of stuff I didn't already know :), like the old route of the A87 was originally built for the purpose of cattle transport, not motor cars :)

Only slight problem was they showed hearing the cattle onto the Skye ferry supposedly to go from Skye to the mainland, but the footage they showed showed them putting them onto the boat on the mainland side! I can understand why they did that as there's a lot more space but a glaring error from anyone who's been there ;)

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 Post subject: Re: Britain's Lost Routes - heads up
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Mark Hewitt wrote:
... Only slight problem was they showed hearing the cattle onto the Skye ferry supposedly to go from Skye to the mainland, but the footage they showed showed them putting them onto the boat on the mainland side! I can understand why they did that as there's a lot more space but a glaring error from anyone who's been there ;)


With the way that TV works, it would not surprise me if they put the cattle on the ferry several times and just those were the best shots so they used them.

When was the road along the old A87 line built? Just reading Telford's report of 1803 and that seemed to be to open up the fisheries with no mention of cattle. An earlier road ran to Loch Hourn, I have a copy of the notice asking for tenders for its construction.

The Sixth Report of the Commissioners for Roads and Bridges in the Highlands says the "Glengary road" should have been completed in 1812 but "the extra work performed by the contractor, overbalanced the savings and deficiencies by L.260".

A sudden flood overthrew the bridge over the river Quoich in 1811 - attributable to a fault abutment so remedied at the expense of the contractor.

From Inch Laggan to Loch Oich, about ten miles of the east end of the road, it will be much frequented by droves of black cattle which will travel from Skye and part of Ross-shire, by the future Glenshiel road, turning off to the southward at Rhiebuie.

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Generally a good program, albeit not one of Griff's best. There was no information on why the Devil's Staircase was built, and no mention of the alternative Drove Road built through the Glen in 1785/6, which I had told them about, and so was in place by 1800, before their 'recreated' journey.
The Road across Loch Loyne was an afterthought for Telford, and probably built c1818-21. It was very definitely planned as a drovers route, in conjunction with the planned but never built Rannoch Road.

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rileyrob wrote:
was no information on why the Devil's Staircase was built,


You mean it wasn't built with a view to turning Bryn's face bright red 200 years later ?????

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Liked the program, explained a lot of stuff I've wondered about.


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crazyknightsfan wrote:
Sounds quite interesting, albeit a little over-dramatic as most documentaries are these days, but I cannot access iPlayer from Australia. Any tips for a foreigner?


Try

http://www.thebox.bz/browse.php?incldea ... nboolean=1

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 Post subject: Re: Britain's Lost Routes - heads up
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rileyrob wrote:
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[list][*]A87 Loch Loyne
You mean A87 (Loch Loyne). Having just watched the programme, and now looked at the page, I recognise that map and that picture of the bridge (I did think it looked a little narrow, and then I find out that half the roadway has been washed away when I read the wiki page)!

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