Botched Roadsigns
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Botched Roadsigns
End plates sized are determined by the 85th %ile, it's a really slow turn into the side road there, but there is a ahead bus only at that point which should have made the end plate bigger than 50mm x'ht
Chevrons are prescribed in three heights, 400, 600 & 800mm, generally you shouldn't need anything more than a 400mm high one in urban streets.
Chevrons are prescribed in three heights, 400, 600 & 800mm, generally you shouldn't need anything more than a 400mm high one in urban streets.
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Here just a more random sign, a pair of "other warning" signs which appeared on the A87 last week.
...Best supplementary plate ever?
Is it specifically a warning to traffic or just generally?
...Best supplementary plate ever?
Is it specifically a warning to traffic or just generally?
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Huh? It links to a plain page in the Wiki??
EDIT: seems I was too eager; the above post was made before the file was uploaded
EDIT: seems I was too eager; the above post was made before the file was uploaded
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No, I forgot to put File: in the link - too used to copying that bit for internal links.dragonv480 wrote:Huh? It links to a plain page in the Wiki??
EDIT: seems I was too eager; the above post was made before the file was uploaded
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Yeah, but that doesn't sound as scary.nowster wrote:Shouldn't that be "Feral goats…"?
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I drove the A87 a week ago last Friday (2nd of March). Looks like I was too early to see this.
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So that's where it come from.....nowster wrote:They milk them for Irn Bru?Lockwood wrote:Ferrous Goats would be worse.
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I was driving to the SECC in Glasgow last night to take my daughter and her pals to a concert.
Check road atlas in advance - leave M8 junction 19. This is confirmed by the brown tourist destination sign after Baillieston on M8 - SECC junction 19.
With lots of traffic, junctions coming thick and fast, right hand exits etc a junction number would have helped.
PS I only drive on unfamiliar UK motorways maybe once or twice a year. I find the Glasgow style of gantries far more intuitive in traffic at speed - the 'official' style might look more logical on paper but at speed to me they are just a confused mess.
Check road atlas in advance - leave M8 junction 19. This is confirmed by the brown tourist destination sign after Baillieston on M8 - SECC junction 19.
With lots of traffic, junctions coming thick and fast, right hand exits etc a junction number would have helped.
PS I only drive on unfamiliar UK motorways maybe once or twice a year. I find the Glasgow style of gantries far more intuitive in traffic at speed - the 'official' style might look more logical on paper but at speed to me they are just a confused mess.
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The sign you link to is actually correct according to the official style, as it's a true lane drop. Yes, it should have a junction number, and that's irrespective of whether it's in Glasgow's house style or is TSRGD compliant.Hagbard wrote:PS I only drive on unfamiliar UK motorways maybe once or twice a year. I find the Glasgow style of gantries far more intuitive in traffic at speed - the 'official' style might look more logical on paper but at speed to me they are just a confused mess.
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Although that's the first sign for the junction it's not a full gantry, it's a just squeezed on to the available apace on the structure. And there is a gantry with full junction destinations and number after the tunnel which still allows enough time to get into to the left lane.Hagbard wrote:With lots of traffic, junctions coming thick and fast, right hand exits etc a junction number would have helped.
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By the time the gantry with junction number was visible the main line was still going at 50+ but the queue in the exit lane was crawling at walking pace. In these circumstances there is NOT enough time to safely get into the exit lane.Glen wrote:Although that's the first sign for the junction it's not a full gantry, it's a just squeezed on to the available apace on the structure. And there is a gantry with full junction destinations and number after the tunnel which still allows enough time to get into to the left lane.Hagbard wrote:With lots of traffic, junctions coming thick and fast, right hand exits etc a junction number would have helped.
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It still gives more warning than the "15.1" exit which appears a few meters after the first gantry which mentions it.Hagbard wrote:By the time the gantry with junction number was visible the main line was still going at 50+ but the queue in the exit lane was crawling at walking pace. In these circumstances there is NOT enough time to safely get into the exit lane.
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Problem in the area is a lack of space with the junctions so close together - I don;t think any style of gantry could cope in such circumstances.Glen wrote: It still gives more warning than the "15.1" exit which appears a few meters after the first gantry which mentions it.
What they really need is a supplementary sign to warn that the junctions are so close: somethin like this. Though given the width and layout of the M8 there will always be visibility issues.
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