Botched Roadsigns

Andy33gmail · Post by **Andy33gmail** » Mon Apr 27, 2015 00:32

MotorwayGuy wrote:Spotted this thing yesterday.

If you were in the left turn lane and decided you'd like to go straight, presumably that configuration makes it illegal to cross the bus lane to get to the other side?

Bryn666 · Post by **Bryn666** » Mon Apr 27, 2015 00:45

Similar signs exist on the A406 at Woodford.

Fahad · Post by **Fahad** » Mon Apr 27, 2015 01:28

Andy33gmail wrote:
MotorwayGuy wrote:Spotted this thing yesterday.
If you were in the left turn lane and decided you'd like to go straight, presumably that configuration makes it illegal to cross the bus lane to get to the other side?

I expect it depends on the wording of the TRO

Bryn666 wrote:Similar signs exist on the A406 at Woodford.

There's a non-compliant attempt at signing the same situation here - I guess Ealing Council didn't wish to apply for authorisation for the prescribed sign so did their own thing.

Chris5156 · Post by **Chris5156** » Mon Apr 27, 2015 02:09

Fahad wrote:here - I guess Ealing Council didn't wish to apply for authorisation for the prescribed sign so did their own thing.

Ealing are one of a number of London boroughs (their next door neighbours Brent are in the same club) who have a definite preference for making it up as they go along when designing road signs.

Fahad · Post by **Fahad** » Mon Apr 27, 2015 02:43

Chris5156 wrote:
Fahad wrote:here - I guess Ealing Council didn't wish to apply for authorisation for the prescribed sign so did their own thing.
Ealing are one of a number of London boroughs (their next door neighbours Brent are in the same club) who have a definite preference for making it up as they go along when designing road signs.

You can say that again!

Bryn666 · Post by **Bryn666** » Mon Apr 27, 2015 06:34

Time based restrictions are perfectly OK.

irrelevant · Post by **irrelevant** » Mon Apr 27, 2015 07:29

Whereas this similar Bus Lane has no advance signage at all! And almost caught me out the other day because I used to commute along here, and was used to it's previous layout, where you got to hug the island!

ForestChav · Post by **ForestChav** » Mon Apr 27, 2015 11:05

Andy33gmail wrote:
MotorwayGuy wrote:Spotted this thing yesterday.
If you were in the left turn lane and decided you'd like to go straight, presumably that configuration makes it illegal to cross the bus lane to get to the other side?

You can turn left, go right round the island in about 50 yards then turn left.

Fahad · Post by **Fahad** » Mon Apr 27, 2015 11:29

Bryn666 wrote:Time based restrictions are perfectly OK.

I hadn't realised that. When did that change?

drm567 · Post by **drm567** » Mon Apr 27, 2015 11:41

A few posts above there was reference to crossing a bus lane, which prompts me to show this in Watford. When I turn left out of the petrol station and then want to use lane 1 at the traffic signals I suppose I should come out into lane two then move to lane 1 at the end of the bus lane. But what about the common situation here - stationary traffic in lane 2 (queuing for the traffic signals). I can wait for someone to leave me a gap, or just turn in to the bus lane as more or less everyone does anyway. Surely it would be better if the bus lane stopped just short of the petrol station entrance.

David

UTCPaul · Post by **UTCPaul** » Mon Apr 27, 2015 12:12

drm567 wrote:A few posts above there was reference to crossing a bus lane, which prompts me to show this in Watford. When I turn left out of the petrol station and then want to use lane 1 at the traffic signals I suppose I should come out into lane two then move to lane 1 at the end of the bus lane. But what about the common situation here - stationary traffic in lane 2 (queuing for the traffic signals). I can wait for someone to leave me a gap, or just turn in to the bus lane as more or less everyone does anyway. Surely it would be better if the bus lane stopped just short of the petrol station entrance.

David

Even better, if you turn around there are Give Way markings across the bus lane when traffic entering it would have to cross a solid line.

doebag · Post by **doebag** » Mon Apr 27, 2015 15:47

Surely the wrong way to sign a contraflow cycle lane

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.51380 ... !2e0?hl=en

Bryn666 · Post by **Bryn666** » Mon Apr 27, 2015 17:42

Flying motorcycle was the only lawful way to sign it before 2011.

doebag · Post by **doebag** » Mon Apr 27, 2015 17:51

In which case, is the 'no entry' a requirement for different reasons.
Possibly to stop those cycle rickshaw things entering.

Fahad · Post by **Fahad** » Mon Apr 27, 2015 19:01

The No Entry is just wrong, but probably necessary for motorist comprehension.

The current setup, while non-compliant, is admittedly pretty clear.

Truvelo · Post by **Truvelo** » Tue Apr 28, 2015 15:39

I don't like the look of this

urbanfox · Post by **urbanfox** » Tue Apr 28, 2015 16:05

I'm quite sure there's a better way of signing this.

3t or 2.5?

3t? or should that be 17?

Rob590 · Post by **Rob590** » Wed Apr 29, 2015 20:48

The attached sign's gone up on the A177 on the edge of Durham. The cycle path in question is on a S2 road and does not connect to an on-pavement or contraflow cycle lane...

Glen · Post by **Glen** » Thu Apr 30, 2015 00:39

Glen wrote:What on earth has gone on here?

Achterneed Level Crossing

I got a reply after contacting Network Rail via their website.

I have spoken with our Risk Manager who agrees that there has been some incorrect lines painted at the level crossing. He has raised this with the contractor who undertook to work on Network Rail's behalf, with a view to getting this mistake rectified as soon as possible.

Glen · Post by **Glen** » Thu Apr 30, 2015 19:39

Well that was a swift resolution to that issue.

Achterneed level crossing

SABRE

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