Botched Roadsigns
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I suspected that might be the case, as I have seen several similar and newish signs with the same diagram. I think it looks a little odd how the stroke thickness on the roundabout is thinner than the through route though.
Interestingly, the original sign is still in situ there too.
Interestingly, the original sign is still in situ there too.
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I have spotted these two this week. First does the A322 go to Aldershot
And is the A281 is now primary.
And is the A281 is now primary.
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It is and always has been the main Horsham/Guildford route (and that is the spot of many a bad crash - due to overtakes in the hidden dips south of there or people coming round corner to north too fast and hitting slow local traffic crossing that xroads)
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This (slightly NSFW) sign from Scotland is doing the rounds. Clear botch: the corners are too square.
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On the old A34 between Alderley Edge and Wilmslow near the Kings head pub there are still signs for M63!
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The sign itself isn't a bodge, but I think this is dangerous:
https://goo.gl/maps/64pMq9YrEKC2
The sign shows that the two lanes on the slip road will add to the main road without you needing to merge. And from the point where the sign is, this is true. But from the location of my link, where you can clearly see the sign, the right hand lane has to merge with an additional slip road first.
https://goo.gl/maps/64pMq9YrEKC2
The sign shows that the two lanes on the slip road will add to the main road without you needing to merge. And from the point where the sign is, this is true. But from the location of my link, where you can clearly see the sign, the right hand lane has to merge with an additional slip road first.
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And the sign that would help you to know that is nicely hidden behind this lamppostmnb20 wrote:The sign itself isn't a bodge, but I think this is dangerous:
But from the location of my link, where you can clearly see the sign, the right hand lane has to merge with an additional slip road first.
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Well, obviously it's not been mounted on its pole centrally.MotorwayGuy wrote:What's wrong with this sign then
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Hi!
1) For starters - the sign should NOT be green ;
2) The chevron is far too wide in proportion to the dimensions of the sign ;
3) The correct design is a white-background sign with black lettering/chevron (and a narrower chrvron more correctly proportioned) and no patches of any sort - the "(A206)" is further along so should be black letters on white!
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Apart from the untidy mounting, this is a classic example of wassocks trying to use something they've not had adequate experience or training for!What's wrong with this sign then
1) For starters - the sign should NOT be green ;
2) The chevron is far too wide in proportion to the dimensions of the sign ;
3) The correct design is a white-background sign with black lettering/chevron (and a narrower chrvron more correctly proportioned) and no patches of any sort - the "(A206)" is further along so should be black letters on white!
Chris Williams
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Apart from the fact that it should use a white sign rather than a green sign with white panels, the font weight and/or spacing is wrong, the line spacing is too tight even without considering that you need block spacing because there is a two-line destination, text is centred rather than left-aligned, and even if the panelling was correct then (A206) should be included in the same panel as the destinations.MotorwayGuy wrote:What's wrong with this sign then
Apart from that ... well let's see, they've got the chevron pointing the right way!
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Quite apart from the directional signage, I'd like to point to the bollards at all the exits from the roundabout. Surely they ought to be "plain face" and not "keep left" (diagram 610)? I occasionally see this at other roundabouts too, but feel it can't be correct. What do the professionals think?MotorwayGuy wrote:What's wrong with this sign then
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I'm not a fan of merges in the middle/right of the carriageway. If it's unsafe to proceed, you're in an impossible situation - either having to stop, cross the tigertail illegally to bail left, or force your way into a live lanemnb20 wrote:The sign itself isn't a bodge, but I think this is dangerous:
https://goo.gl/maps/64pMq9YrEKC2
The sign shows that the two lanes on the slip road will add to the main road without you needing to merge. And from the point where the sign is, this is true. But from the location of my link, where you can clearly see the sign, the right hand lane has to merge with an additional slip road first.
When the merge is from the left it makes much more sense - you can bail onto the hard shoulder - or on a normal D/C at least bail onto the grass
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Left lane merges and right lane gains reduce capacity though; everyone moves out of the gained lane to let lorries merge in... This screws up the M6/M61 merge every morning.
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came across this peach today https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Til ... 5b!6m1!1e1
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Andy33gmail wrote:I'm not a fan of merges in the middle/right of the carriageway. If it's unsafe to proceed, you're in an impossible situation - either having to stop, cross the tigertail illegally to bail left, or force your way into a live lane
When the merge is from the left it makes much more sense - you can bail onto the hard shoulder - or on a normal D/C at least bail onto the grass
I checked the DMRB on the issue. It says the preferred option is normally to merge the right lane and gain the left lane because of the issues involving lorries that were mentioned above, but specifically allows merging the left lane and gaining the right lane in "circumstances where it is appropriate" (although doesn't explain what those are). My guess would be situations where there aren't many lorries expected to be using the junction.Bryn666 wrote:Left lane merges and right lane gains reduce capacity though; everyone moves out of the gained lane to let lorries merge in... This screws up the M6/M61 merge every morning.
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What about it? It's just old.djw1981 wrote:came across this peach today https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Til ... 5b!6m1!1e1
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British & Irish cities driven in - 48/75
England - 36/52, Scotland - 7/7, Wales - 5/6, NI - 0/5, RoI - 0/5
England - 36/52, Scotland - 7/7, Wales - 5/6, NI - 0/5, RoI - 0/5