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It looks like it.

We still have areas where two way markings over humps have not been changed to reflect one way flow.

Little details that people often forget. Like taking down time plates when replacing single yellows with doubles. Grrr.
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In terms of making signs "passively safe" this crash on the M1 (NI) today could well turn out to be a case in point.

Don't know what happened, but the photo suggests the car at some point impacted the concrete pillars of the sign.
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nirs wrote:In terms of making signs "passively safe" this crash on the M1 (NI) today could well turn out to be a case in point.

Don't know what happened, but the photo suggests the car at some point impacted the concrete pillars of the sign.
That sign looks as if it should have been protected by a barrier to me.
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Chris Bertram wrote:
Fahad wrote:The one-way Hornchurch Street in South Manchester has a give way line at the entrance end, and an edge of carriageway marking at the exit end.

Has the one way flow been reversed at some point?
I'm not sure - if it has it was at least seven years ago. I'm inclined to think not, as as Bryn reminds to check, the humps are marked in the correct direction.
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swarkestonecauseway wrote:
nirs wrote:In terms of making signs "passively safe" this crash on the M1 (NI) today could well turn out to be a case in point.

Don't know what happened, but the photo suggests the car at some point impacted the concrete pillars of the sign.
That sign looks as if it should have been protected by a barrier to me.
Normally it would be, but NI might have different standards for barrier placement.
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I came across an interesting article about access incursions onto Blackpool tramway resulting in new- no entry signage, which from the picture, looks botched...
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M6q, anyone?
9s aren't normally that straight are they?

Looks like someone used a backwards P, could've just used the 6 upside down...
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I noticed this sign for the first time today and made a mental note not to attempt an overtake in this manner.
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Noticed this on Saturday, its not on streetview yet, but one of the brand new signs at M1 J24, on the south bridge heading towards the A50, the right-hand lane is marked out for the 'A452' :facepalm:
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darkcape wrote:Noticed this on Saturday, its not on streetview yet, but one of the brand new signs at M1 J24, on the south bridge heading towards the A50, the right-hand lane is marked out for the 'A452' :facepalm:
On the 453 from the airport, the right hand lane is marked 'Loughborough (A6)'. Slightly superfluous brackets.
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On the northbound off slip at J24 the sign showing the lanes is all white on blue. No green patches for the various roads. Just white on blue.

That's not right is it? It certainly doesn't look right.
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Incorrect: http://goo.gl/maps/9d2ji
I get the idea they had in mind but, no: http://goo.gl/maps/CFYlB
And not a botch, but these are continuously dotted along the road for miles. Why aren't there just a couple at each end with 'for x miles' plates instead of these many 'for x yards' plates. The example here shows two right next to one another: http://goo.gl/maps/QfmKr
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How about this beauty. Looks old as well.
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Ooooh eck that's a gem.
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That's a real 'ooo-err Missus' jobby.

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It comes from a more enlightened era when major destinations and routes were signed from relatively minor roads. If that sign is ever replaced it would just feature local destinations such as Leagrave.

I also like the way the kink in the road is exaggerated from the shape of the filter lane. The sign is an all time classic and deserves to be preserved alongside Chris' A6144(M) chopsticks.
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I'd be surprised if the northbound M42 J10 diverge signs haven't been mentioned before. The way the signs are sized it looks like J10 was built first for the services, and the A5 got plugged in afterwards.
urbanfox wrote:On the northbound off slip at J24 the sign showing the lanes is all white on blue. No green patches for the various roads. Just white on blue.

That's not right is it? It certainly doesn't look right.
In my head I dismissed it as a temporary sign, it wasn't until I specifically looked at it yesterday I noticed. The signage on J24 is a bit of a hash at the moment anyway. The A453 exit off the roundabout has been switched back to the original side, and looks like there'll be 3 lanes coming off, but from what I remember the signs are still for 2 lanes, so I expect them to be changed in the next few weeks.

Coming off at J24 northbound, traffic circulating the roundabout already ends up blocking the slip road entrance onto the roundabout due to the new lights at the A453 (East Midlands side) and 'stacking space' of about two white lines.The signs then give you 2 lanes for the A453, before changing to 3 when the extra lane is gained at the A50 lights.
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Truvelo wrote:It comes from a more enlightened era when major destinations and routes were signed from relatively minor roads. If that sign is ever replaced it would just feature local destinations such as Leagrave.
And more likely than not you would find the trail ran cold at the next junction. I think they've all gone now, but there used to be a number of late pre-Worboys signs to Manchester Airport scattered at random places around the Manchester conurbation, which never seemed to form part of a continuous chain of signage. I remember there being one on the A626 in Offerton and another somewhere in the wilds of Newton Heath.

Signs saying simply "Motorway (M1)" were very much a 60s thing. I remember my dad once getting lost around Alsager following a sign for "Motorway (M6)".
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There's some new signage on the A45 'Nene Valley Way' past Northampton. The 'straight on' destination at the junctions is simply 'East'.

Also noticed the 'R' (for ring road) has been patched over on all the signs along here, including on the new signs - so why have them on in the first place?

Also on the A14 west on slip at J2 I noticed a yellow sign warning of a closure (that happened last week, in any case), with the date as 'Mach 31'
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PeterA5145 wrote:
Truvelo wrote:It comes from a more enlightened era when major destinations and routes were signed from relatively minor roads. If that sign is ever replaced it would just feature local destinations such as Leagrave.
And more likely than not you would find the trail ran cold at the next junction. I think they've all gone now, but there used to be a number of late pre-Worboys signs to Manchester Airport scattered at random places around the Manchester conurbation, which never seemed to form part of a continuous chain of signage. I remember there being one on the A626 in Offerton and another somewhere in the wilds of Newton Heath.

Signs saying simply "Motorway (M1)" were very much a 60s thing. I remember my dad once getting lost around Alsager following a sign for "Motorway (M6)".
The blue "Motorway M1" signs were brought in as a temporary fix to allow direction signs to motorways to be placed in conjunction with existing signs.

As we don't rapidly build motorways these days there is no need for them, unfortunately, so they're not in the Regs anymore.
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