Botched Roadsigns

urbanfox · Post by **urbanfox** » Tue Dec 16, 2014 10:25

They've dug a hole on a pavement near me. This pavement is about 15 feet from the road, behind a wide verge.

This apparently requires them to stick a 'men at work' sign in the road, at a point where it is already too narrow for two cars to pass.

Stevie D · Post by **Stevie D** » Tue Dec 16, 2014 20:27

Durham1950 wrote:Looking at the sign I can't see how you can tell which of the two roundabouts you are approaching. My initial reading is that I am approaching the one on the left (because we read left to right) How SHOULD the sign be laid out so that it is obvious I am approaching the right-hand one?

It should have a much longer stalk on the road you are actually approaching on, and just a stub on the other road.

urbanfox · Post by **urbanfox** » Tue Dec 16, 2014 23:10

I expect this kind of rubbish on industrial estates, etc but not on a proper road.

Would there be any sort of liability on the idiot who put the wrong sign in if a collision occured due to someone assuming priority?

Truvelo · Post by **Truvelo** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 16:19

The 40 signs at the start of the temporary limit on Sheffield Parkway at J33 are in a non standard font. I hope any speeding tickets issued are null and void

A303Chris · Post by **A303Chris** » Thu Dec 18, 2014 11:49

Looks like Wokingham BC has wonky brackets for there keep left signs on the roundabout as shown here. These were all replaced early this year and erected like this.

Other roundabouts either side of this junction are fine.

Post by **Big L** » Thu Dec 18, 2014 21:23

Close, but no cigar.

urbanfox · Post by **urbanfox** » Sat Dec 20, 2014 00:00

A5 closed at A47
Use M6 and M69
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M6 closed J3-2

Bfivethousand · Post by **Bfivethousand** » Sat Dec 20, 2014 00:37

This is a botch, and a bloody dangerous one at that.

The widening works here are now complete, the signs shown are still in place. I approached in lane 3 intending to get on to the M42 north. Unfortunately the subsequent lane markings don't assist you properly on to the slip lane which resulted in a pretty unpleasant altercation with some Bertie wishing to offer me on to the hard shoulder.

This seems to be happening disturbingly often on local HA "remedial" schemes (The A5 at Weeford roundabout is another case in point), I fear someone out there isn't carrying out the simple but necessary checking procedures...

urbanfox · Post by **urbanfox** » Sat Dec 20, 2014 09:48

They've done it at J10 as well. Signs and road markings that don't match up.

I expected them to fix it by the time they'd tidied up the cones, but the situation remains 6 months on.

Bryn666 · Post by **Bryn666** » Sat Dec 20, 2014 10:00

I proposed some sign changes as part of a Pinch Point scheme and was smacked down.

The HA don't seem to understand signs.

Johnathan404 · Post by **Johnathan404** » Sat Dec 20, 2014 15:58

Benny · Post by **Benny** » Sat Dec 20, 2014 20:39

Maybe if it was a perfect square

Bristol · Post by **Bristol** » Sun Dec 21, 2014 10:19

Stevie D wrote:
Durham1950 wrote:Looking at the sign I can't see how you can tell which of the two roundabouts you are approaching. My initial reading is that I am approaching the one on the left (because we read left to right) How SHOULD the sign be laid out so that it is obvious I am approaching the right-hand one?
It should have a much longer stalk on the road you are actually approaching on, and just a stub on the other road.

Almost like this.

Long stalk: check.
Not sending traffic counterclockwise round the second one: hmm ...

urbanfox · Post by **urbanfox** » Mon Dec 22, 2014 12:16

Streetview is slightly out of date, but this is now three lanes.

The heights are 16'-6" on Lane 1 and 2 and 16' on lane 3. The warning sign is now on the nearside only and the bridge itself has no markings. That sign could easily be hidden behind another vehicle and before you know it your 16'-3" trailer is having a haircut...

UTCPaul · Post by **UTCPaul** » Mon Dec 22, 2014 12:57

multiraider2 wrote:Can I nominate this road name sign. There's nothing actually wrong with it, other than its bottom edge being just under 6'3'' (or 1.905 m) from the ground

IIRC the minimum height for a sign is 2.1m on a footway, and 2.3m recommended.

L.J.D · Post by **L.J.D** » Mon Dec 22, 2014 12:58

What's going on here oh and here?

Post by **Big L** » Mon Dec 22, 2014 19:08

I drove through 'the most dangerous junction in the world' this evening, and wondered just how I am supposed to pass this combination legally :

Truvelo · Post by **Truvelo** » Mon Dec 22, 2014 20:21

Presumably you're entitled to make either movement?

Surely it would be better to have a no left turn symbol instead.

Post by **Big L** » Mon Dec 22, 2014 21:03

There are green filter arrows matching the signs. But the signs as they stand order me to go straight ahead AND to the right.

Fahad · Post by **Fahad** » Mon Dec 22, 2014 21:25

Truvelo wrote:Presumably you're entitled to make either movement?

Surely it would be better to have a no left turn symbol instead.

Along with a no u-turn symbol.

Conflicting turn arrows on traffic lights is a speciality of TfL, they absolutely love doing that

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