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 Post subject: Re: Pre-Worboys preservation campaign
PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 23:26 
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Keep going up the road to Finchdean and you see them, but they just look like old new signs, as opposed to old signs.

It's a shame, but local PW signs seem to be hated by GSV - maybe they look too numberplatish.


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 Post subject: Re: Pre-Worboys preservation campaign
PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 19:47 
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Here it is, I can see why you thought it was a new sign from the rear as they've riveted it to the back of a new sign so they could use the railings to get it on the pole. It must make the whole thing stronger as well.

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I saw the headroom signs- three bridges with six in total, and could just read the outside the new triangles. They seemed to be transferred on rather than the raised type and someone could have got a ladder and pulled the others off but better not to ask the impossible. I didn't see the triangle signs though- I Streetviewed most of it before going as well but saw nothing similar or when I was there as I carried on to Finchdean anyway and being so narrow couldn't have gone too fast to see anything. The only information signs including catseyes PW were the 30mph speed limits and no entries, but have never come across a normal current red triangle including catseyes, as far as I know they were stopped altogether in the 50s when Scotchlite reflective lettering came in. So I am fascinated to know what those red signs were, if you can do another Streetview link it would be much appreciated, although I don't think I'd be going back a third time.


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 Post subject: Re: Pre-Worboys preservation campaign
PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2012 15:04 
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Next time I'm up that way during daylight hours, I'll see what I can see.
I'll also try and get a better picture of the "Denmead ->" in Southwick and the Petersfield "Town Centre ->" ones.


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 Post subject: Re: Pre-Worboys preservation campaign
PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2012 19:33 
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DavidNW9 wrote:
I know the districts in Harlow were already there when they named them, but were any of the estates based on local names or all made up from scratch? I've had a look around and couldn't find anything on old maps using the estate names but would be interested if anyone local knew a bit more of the history.


I lived in Harlow when it was a bit more modern.
There was a book in the library that detailed the origins of the names of the roads and estates. The districts (Latton, Netteswell, Parndon etc) were usually names for the villages / parishes that pre-existed the new town. Some of the estates derived their names from history (Mark Hall Moors after the estate of Adelolph de Merck, Felmongers fom the felmongering (leather tanning) pits, Ladyshot - hunting ground). The signs brought back memories, most of my family have moved away from Harlow now, similarly many of the school friends with whom I maintain contact, so I haven't really been there for 25 years.
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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2012 17:52 
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Found these near Aust, near the old Severn Bridge. I'll put them on the wiki when I have a moment.


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 Post subject: Re: Pre-Worboys preservation campaign
PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2012 17:53 
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And another one!


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 Post subject: Re: Pre-Worboys preservation campaign
PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2012 03:48 
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Thanks B1040, someone had said Fesant's Croft was definitely an old local name already but as I only went and got these a couple of weeks ago hadn't done any more research and got to a dead end online when completed all the local websites only referring to what was on the old maps they displayed.

Glad that lot are still there Simon, I think there are about 10 in a few miles there as well, one has almost rusted away but still standing a few weeks ago (I help run the Flickr pool so see most of them sooner or later) but the Ingst one appears totally new to me although many people know the area and deliver a large group whenever they visit for us. Apart from Harlow and Cockfosters/Enfield (nearly all gone there now though) I think that area and the area around Devil's Bridge in Wales are the ones with the most, and the Welsh ones are gradually being repainted as well as are the ones remaining on the Yorkshire moors.


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PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2012 18:35 
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I drive this way to work for 7 years and havent spotted it before...

http://g.co/maps/cqmj7


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 Post subject: Re: Pre-Worboys preservation campaign
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Location: Mid Wales, in that loop between the A470 and the A487
Here's a lovely example in Rhosllanerchrugog

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I've just made a start at trying to improve our coverage of Road Signs on the Wiki. I've started a thread over in Street Furniture for it, so please help out if you can!
My first attempt on the Wiki can be found here: Warning_Sign/Double_Bend

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 Post subject: Re: Pre-Worboys preservation campaign
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On Salvage Hunters this afternoon on Quest Channel the guy was in a shed near Bristol looking for items when beside him I spied a pre - warboys sign with A46 Bath to the rightand A46 Stroud to the left. It seemed to me it was originaly on a side road - the plate for the town/ village straight ahead was either missing or obliterated. Looking at a map it could have been on any of the following A420,A432 or the A4135 all heading west - would that be correct

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 Post subject: Re: Pre-Worboys preservation campaign
PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 00:05 
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Anyone spotted this one yet ?

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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 19:05 
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This one's on a private drive.

Does it count?

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 Post subject: Re: Pre-Worboys preservation campaign
PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 22:41 
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I'm guessing that this solid red disc is somehow part of a pre-Worboys sign, but what was its specific meaning (I thought that red rings were used, rather than solid discs), and what sort of thing was underneath?

This is another one, alongside an old bridge near Carrick Castle on Loch Goil, again without a plate.

Also, after my previous discovery of a white-on-black 'No Through Road' sign, I have also found this just off the B847 at Trinafour.

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 Post subject: Re: Pre-Worboys preservation campaign
PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2012 09:54 
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I'm guessing that this solid red disc is somehow part of a pre-Worboys sign, but what was its specific meaning (I thought that red rings were used, rather than solid discs), and what sort of thing was underneath?
Solid red discs were used as well as hollow ones, though triangles were always hollow. See the Wiki for more info.

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 Post subject: Re: Pre-Worboys preservation campaign
PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2012 22:41 
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vlad wrote:
Does it count?


That's a lovely example, I've seen them with hollow circles but not with a solid one, that probably means it's pre-war or so. They all count if in use, they only become obsolete once removed and put on display. I vaguely remember that location has been posted before although not the sign that went with it.

That's a lovely pair in Farnham, I was wondering where my next one would come from having mopped up Greater London, Surrey, North Kent, Herts, Harlow and East Hants, and there they are. I hadn't yet Streetviewed the whole area down there so new territory for me till now.

Here's one in memory of Bob Holness I discovered this week in Chipperfield, almost like new.

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 Post subject: Re: Pre-Worboys preservation campaign
PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2012 20:52 
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They have put another sign in front of the Farnham pair, I had to do acrobatics to get underneath it and take the left and right ones separately but rose to the occasion. The good news was they are double sided, and the opposite side is sheltered and far better condition, although you can barely see them from the road and had to go in someone's garden to get them and the light there was dreadful.

I don't think we've had the Purbeck one before but of course it wouldn't be so easy to spot the differences with those signs!

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 Post subject: Re: Pre-Worboys preservation campaign
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It would be fantastic to set up a Road Signage museum and provide a safe place for Worboys and related vintage signage. I'm not sure if one exists beyond my shed though sadly!

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 Post subject: Re: Pre-Worboys preservation campaign
PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2012 22:08 
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Most transport museums- Beaulieu, Manchester etc have a good selection, there are plenty of collections recorded on Flickr and various picture searches but not one entirely dedicated yet. The problem there would be the existing signs off the roads would all be taken care of except for those with dealers, and they can charge well over the odds for some which may make it a lot harder than the ones donated by councils years ago. We certainly don't want any more going from roads to collections before their time and the great majority of sign photos going back to before the war are all valid records themselves as had they not been taken then unless the signs were preserved no one would ever have seen them after the removal, like the ones I didn't take near me in Finchley someone else just posted from 1993. The direction signs were all unique besides a few roundabout repeater arrows, so each photo is one saved in its own way at least.


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 Post subject: Re: Pre-Worboys preservation campaign
PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2012 18:33 
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All I can say is ugh. Three bridges, six signs, I took five as the sixth was presumably the same and harder to stop there. Here's the most legible, the others have no paint left and can only read two numbers maximum on this one.

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No paint, but three characters part visible

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