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 Post subject: Re: Speed limits that should be different
PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 16:46 
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I may be mistaken, but I'm sure this in Runcorn has always been 40mph.

Yes, it has, although it's actually in Widnes :P

I mentioned it earlier in the thread.

Those Corby ones look utterly bonkers.

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 Post subject: Re: Speed limits that should be different
PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 17:12 
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PeterA5145 wrote:
Those Corby ones look utterly bonkers.


You're not far wrong. There are a few more in the area but these are probably the most noteworthy. More interestingly with these two is that the white lines haven't been re-painted to comply with TSGRD, in fact in the case of the S2 the road has been recently re-dressed and it looks as though they re-painted the original lines not those suitable for the current 40 mph limit!


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 Post subject: Re: Speed limits that should be different
PostPosted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 21:22 
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The only nearby speed limit that I feel should be reduced, is the 50 on the A48 immediately east of M4 J28, a stretch of S4 alongside Tredegar Park at the west end of Newport before (on its new alignment) it becomes D2 after the next roundabout. As S4's go it's a tad too narrow and opposing lanes seem (to me) too close for comfort. I would reduce the limit here to 40.


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 Post subject: Re: Speed limits that should be different
PostPosted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 22:23 
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One that always springs to mind is the North Cray Road. When it was built in the sixties it was NSL, but was reduced to 50 in the 1970's due to complaints of lorries thundering along at deadly speeds. It remained at a sensible 50 until about 10 years ago, when it was reduced to 40mph. Apparently there is currently a campaign from local horse riders to reduce it to 30 :shock:.


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 Post subject: Re: Speed limits that should be different
PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 13:07 
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PeterA5145 wrote:
A557 in Widnes (shown as A568 on Google Maps) – a modern dual carriageway with Armco and no pedestrians or side turnings, yet it’s a 40. Should be at least 50.

Yesterday I saw a Talivan on this stretch, which is only too typical of how speed enforcement almost invariably takes place where exceeding the posted limit is most prevalent, and least dangerous :rant:

Nothing to do with £££, of course...

Fortunately I was going the other way so hopefully wasn't caught.

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 Post subject: Re: Speed limits that should be different
PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 14:32 
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I'd quite like to see the A629 Elland Bypass speed limit increased to 60 from the universally ignored 50 (NSL is too fast for the road geometry IMV), with a buffer 40 between the Elland Wood Bottom merge to single carriageway and the Jubilee Road signal crossing, where the 30 could sensibly start.

It has always been 30mph through the Calder and Hebble junction, I see no reason why this could not be signed more appropriately as 40. At the same time someone could perhaps look at tinkering with the road markings so the 2 into 1 merges flow a bit better and, even dare I say it, introduce a peak time bus lane between the Calder and Hebble and Dudwell Lane signals.

I'm sure the engineers in the area have their own views mind. :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Speed limits that should be different
PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 15:51 
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Middlepath Street in Belfast is 40 and should be 30. With the various sets of traffic lights nobody can get above 30 anyway, and people coming off the M3 have to slow below 30 to join Middlepath Street even when the lights are green, and certainly at this corner.

I just wanted to throw in a speed limit that is pointlessly high ;) As built, it didn't have either set of traffic lights, and the road straight on at the corner was still open.

Just don't get me started on speed limits that are stupidly low. Like Hillhead Road, Ballyclare - look how far out the NSL signs are.


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 Post subject: Re: Speed limits that should be different
PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 16:14 
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A614. They put a 50 limit with SPECS on it last year because the road was 'too dangerous'. 1st fatal accident I know of happening there was 2 months AFTER the new limit was imposed.

I never saw anything wrong with it when it was NSL. it was quite straight with easy curves. Police weren't happy with the change

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 Post subject: Re: Speed limits that should be different
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A12 East Cross Route, ex A102(M) may be in between 2 genuinely 40mph sections, but to have a 40mph speed limit on a former 60mph motorway is ridiculous!


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 Post subject: Re: Speed limits that should be different
PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 09:48 
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A614. They put a 50 limit with SPECS on it last year because the road was 'too dangerous'. 1st fatal accident I know of happening there was 2 months AFTER the new limit was imposed.

I never saw anything wrong with it when it was NSL. it was quite straight with easy curves. Police weren't happy with the change
Which is why the police should be allowed a veto over speed limit changes. They're the ones who have to enforce them, and who have to clear up after accidents. So they should have a very good idea of where the really dangerous bits are. Unfortunately it falls to the non-experts, in the form of councillors, to decide these things, and they are highly susceptible to pressure from special interest groups. So we get the stupid limits that we see everywhere now.

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 Post subject: Re: Speed limits that should be different
PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 20:20 
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AndyB wrote:
Middlepath Street in Belfast is 40 and should be 30. With the various sets of traffic lights nobody can get above 30 anyway, and people coming off the M3 have to slow below 30 to join Middlepath Street even when the lights are green, and certainly at this corner.

And lo and behold, they have removed Middlepath Street from the list of roads with a 40 limit! New signs have been put up at the end of the M3 very recently, perhaps last week.

They haven't changed the M3 itself, though, so the Middlepath Street offslip still has a short 40 section.


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 Post subject: Re: Speed limits that should be different
PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 21:33 
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The St Peter's Way section of the A666 bypassing Bolton is 50mph when it's easy to drive at 70, which most people do anyway.

There's a couple of tight junctions which could explain this.

Bolton Council have a habit of closing the southbound section through the town centre at weekends, making getting back to the M61 a tricky satnav-proof task.


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 Post subject: Re: Speed limits that should be different
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The 50 was brought in during early 1999 following some accidents at the junctions. I think, like the Elland Bypass, it's another 60mph candidate rather than 50.

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 Post subject: Re: Speed limits that should be different
PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 08:55 
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We have loads (maybe 95% of the arterial roads) of 40MPH roads in telford now (all were NSL from their concept til a few years ago) but thankfully during the quieter times of day, the "more sensible drivers", still drive at about 50MPH on them. In fact a recent speed survey done by the council, showed that as many as 87% of drivers were exceeding the 40MPH limit on some of the roads.....makes you wonder if the council realise they are breaking DfT guidelines on these roads or just too thick to know it.

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