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Rain wrote:It's not just learners, pedestrians/cyclists will have to rely on a special bus service over the new bridge once the old bridge is demolished 12 months or so after the new one opens.
Why ? There is a perfectly adequate train servce between the two sides of the estuary.
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Ritchie333 wrote: What's your source of information? Transport Scotland's website here states that the old bridge will remain as a dedicated public transport corridor for buses, taxis, pedestrians and cyclists.
That was the plan but I have been informed by someone in the know that this is no longer the case.
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Rain wrote:That was the plan but I have been informed by someone in the know that this is no longer the case.
Well I was informed by someone once that the M41 was supposed to go to Birmingham, but saying don't necessarily make it so!
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Ritchie333 wrote: Well I was informed by someone once that the M41 was supposed to go to Birmingham, but saying don't necessarily make it so!
Well the person had quite extensive knowledge of Transport Scotland contracts that wouldn't be obvious to anyone outside so I would have thought they would know what the plan was.
WHBM wrote: Why ? There is a perfectly adequate train servce between the two sides of the estuary.
Cycle space is quite limited on trains though.
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Rain wrote:
Ritchie333 wrote: What's your source of information? Transport Scotland's website here states that the old bridge will remain as a dedicated public transport corridor for buses, taxis, pedestrians and cyclists.
That was the plan but I have been informed by someone in the know that this is no longer the case.
I think they're pulling your leg, but I'll keep an eye on e-bay just in case...
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As I understand it there are no immediate plants to demolish the bridge.

However there are investigation works into the condition of the cable anchors, if that investigation throws up something unexpected - well, it might be prudent to have a contingency plan in place.
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WHBM wrote:
Rain wrote:It's not just learners, pedestrians/cyclists will have to rely on a special bus service over the new bridge once the old bridge is demolished 12 months or so after the new one opens.
Why ? There is a perfectly adequate train servce between the two sides of the estuary.



What if I want to take a tandem across the firth on New Year's Day?
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t1(M) wrote:
WHBM wrote:
Rain wrote:It's not just learners, pedestrians/cyclists will have to rely on a special bus service over the new bridge once the old bridge is demolished 12 months or so after the new one opens.
Why ? There is a perfectly adequate train servce between the two sides of the estuary.



What if I want to take a tandem across the firth on New Year's Day?
You could always take a loony dook....
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It seems like Ireland and Britain need to adopt the foreign system of "motorway" but not "Autoroute/strada/bahn/piste"

Many D routes in France have sections restricting pushbikes and ag. vehicles(& possibly scooters) using the blue sign with a car rather than chopsticks, also lots of routes nationale use this scheme too

The Waterford bypass and westlink in Belfast should use this for sure, and parts of the n25 in and about Cork. Don't know Britain well enough to mention places
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What if I want to take a tandem across the firth on New Year's Day?
What about those who want to cross the Severn estuary on an invalid carriage?
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Hi!
What about those who want to cross the Severn estuary on an invalid carriage?

Those daft things must all be deceased by now surely?! Mobility Scooters and what-not are allowed to use the special paths by the side of the old Severn Crossing!

Going back to the new FRB, the Special Road Restrictions would only cause aggro for tractors and things, which if the old FRB is demolished would have to go via the Kincardine and cause rage for all the drivers on the bridge & approach roads there, and I suspect very, very few'd want to bother!!!

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carawaystick wrote:It seems like Ireland and Britain need to adopt the foreign system of "motorway" but not "Autoroute/strada/bahn/piste"

Many D routes in France have sections restricting pushbikes and ag. vehicles(& possibly scooters) using the blue sign with a car rather than chopsticks, also lots of routes nationale use this scheme too

The Waterford bypass and westlink in Belfast should use this for sure, and parts of the n25 in and about Cork. Don't know Britain well enough to mention places
Do you mean like this? http://g.co/maps/q7522

As a side note, does this count as a botched road sign? A "no" directive inside a prohibition sign? A double-negative?
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Is the new bridge going to be tolled?
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Rain wrote:Is the new bridge going to be tolled?
I would hesitate to provide a definitive answer as it's quite a few years before it'll be open (at least one session of parliament).

However, at present, there are no plans for there to be a toll.
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Scotland abolished all tolls a few years ago. Unless political policy changes (which is possible), there is no prospect of it being tolled.
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Any news on construction starting? As I only live a few miles down the road I'll be keeping a keen eye on proceedings.
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Construction starting "soon" according to September 2011 newsletter.
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Traffic management starts this Friday on the M90/A90, A92 and A823(M) ahead of the new gantry installations on the Fife side:

http://www.transportscotland.gov.uk/new ... anagement-
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Transport Scotland wrote:For reasons of safety, a mandatory 40mph speed limit will be applied throughout the extent of the traffic management scheme, which will be enforced by average speed cameras. These cameras will measure a vehicle’s average speed from point to point along a length of the route, using Automatic Number Plate Recognition (ANPR) to identify vehicles that exceed the 40mph limit.
Wonder will this stealth install of SPECS be removed afterwards..... ?
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The SPECS cameras were removed from the M80, I don't see why they won't be removed from here. However, it looks like that section will be speed-controlled once the works are finished, along the lines of ATM in England. According to Transport Scotland, "Overhead signal gantries along this corridor will aim to keep traffic moving smoothly by providing traffic, lane control and mandatory speed control and information to drivers via variable message signs (VMS).".
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