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PostPosted: Thu May 31, 2012 14:45 
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What is a 'T' road (as shown on Wiki)?. Seems to be a defunct road in England.

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PostPosted: Thu May 31, 2012 15:27 
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Category:T Roads (Britain) - sources and info there.

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 Post subject: Re: T Roads
PostPosted: Thu May 31, 2012 15:35 
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Many thanks. 'T' = Trunk.

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 Post subject: Re: T Roads
PostPosted: Thu May 31, 2012 15:48 
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I think the Roads UK page, linked from the Wiki page linked above, should say "Trunk Roads Act 1936" rather than "Transport Act 1936".


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 Post subject: Re: T Roads
PostPosted: Thu May 31, 2012 19:20 
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wrinkly wrote:
I think the Roads UK page, linked from the Wiki page linked above, should say "Trunk Roads Act 1936" rather than "Transport Act 1936".


How the heck did I manage to let that one slip through? Anyway, its now corrected.

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 Post subject: Re: T Roads
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How the heck did I manage to let that one slip through? Anyway, its now corrected.
Also, on your .pdf Stourbridge rather than Stonebridge at the beginning of the T42 (that one slipped by me) and T22 gets called T18 for some reason (probably as it's a more sensible number).

Likewise "Middlesborough" just winds people from Teesside up! ;)

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 Post subject: Re: T Roads
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Nicholas wrote:
How the heck did I manage to let that one slip through? Anyway, its now corrected.
Also, on your .pdf Stourbridge rather than Stonebridge at the beginning of the T42 (that one slipped by me) and T22 gets called T18 for some reason (probably as it's a more sensible number).

Likewise "Middlesborough" just winds people from Teesside up! ;)


I'll get Stonebridge amended too ;)

The T18 is shown as so as that is what appears on the map image I have... perhaps the DoT were indecisive over what to number it! Its an official one that was found by Chris M at the National Archives.

The same map shows the T66 as terminating in Middlesbourough, same as the Penrith to Middlesborugh Trunk Road.

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 Post subject: Re: T Roads
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Somewhat topical, but a T road can also be a main Irish road under the T and L designations. We put that idea in the shredder in 1977 and signs bearing these old numbers can still be seen in rural parts of Ireland where the council decided to preserve them rather than present them with a skip. ;) The M, N, R and L designations also didn't come into force at the same time. A chronological order follows:

N Roads: 1977
M Roads: 1983
R Roads: 1994, but appeared on road signs since the late 80s. :S Only Ireland then...
L Roads: c2005

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 Post subject: Re: T Roads
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Somewhat topical, but a T road can also be a main Irish road under the T and L designations
Indeed, and we have all the T roads on the wiki (plus the NI hidden designations) - missing many of the L roads (new and old versions).

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 Post subject: Re: T Roads
PostPosted: Thu May 31, 2012 21:15 
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The same map shows the T66 as terminating in Middlesbourough, same as the Penrith to Middlesborugh Trunk Road.
Yes, but it's spelt "Middlesbrough", not "...borough". (Despite this, the footy team is always called "Boro".)

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 Post subject: Re: T Roads
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 Post subject: Re: T Roads
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Chris Bertram wrote:
Yes, but it's spelt "Middlesbrough", not "...borough". (Despite this, the footy team is always called "Boro".)

So it's pronounced Middles-bruff? :twisted:


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 Post subject: Re: T Roads
PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 12:29 
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Yes.
And it goes down to well when you say that to the locals.


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 Post subject: Re: T Roads
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Chris Bertram wrote:
Yes, but it's spelt "Middlesbrough", not "...borough". (Despite this, the footy team is always called "Boro".)

So it's pronounced Middles-bruff? :twisted:
As you obviously know very well ... no! :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: T Roads
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Nicholas wrote:
si404 wrote:
T22 gets called T18 for some reason (probably as it's a more sensible number).

The T18 is shown as so as that is what appears on the map image I have... perhaps the DoT were indecisive over what to number it! Its an official one that was found by Chris M at the National Archives.

I don't think so - my article on the subject mentions T22 and remarks how odd a choice of number it is, and I have diagrams showing T22 running through Brigg in Lincolnshire. Not sure I can find references to T18 in my research.

I'm not doubting your research, of course - but I don't think I can be a source for T18.

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 Post subject: Re: T Roads
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Chris5156 wrote:
I don't think so - my article on the subject mentions T22 and remarks how odd a choice of number it is, and I have diagrams showing T22 running through Brigg in Lincolnshire. Not sure I can find references to T18 in my research.

I'm not doubting your research, of course - but I don't think I can be a source for T18.


Here's an extract of the map itself (still attached to the email you sent way back in 2008!):


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 Post subject: Re: T Roads
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On the other hand, it's entirely possible that there was a mass T-road renumber at some point...


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 Post subject: Re: T Roads
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Chris Bertram wrote:
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Chris Bertram wrote:
Yes, but it's spelt "Middlesbrough", not "...borough". (Despite this, the footy team is always called "Boro".)

So it's pronounced Middles-bruff? :twisted:
As you obviously know very well ... no! :lol:


If you're blessed with a Teesside accent, Middles-Bruh just rolls off the tongue. :laugh:


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