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New B road

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I brought the subject up here a while ago. Anyway it has now been christened

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the B1535 - and it runs between Honingham and Lenwade

I quite like the number actually :) Pity the road itself isn't much more than some C roads bodged together.

Anyway does someone knowledgeable need to add this to the wiki?
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Why bother, was my first thinking. However if a lot of people are using the route it does seem to have some sense if it keeps people on the "right road" and not getting lost and clogging up other, narrower, roads. Does this sort of thing feed into satnavs ?
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I seem to remember Norfolk declassifying a number of B-roads a few years ago, especially in the North-East of the county around Mundesley.
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Curiously the OS map, on Sabre maps, shows it as being the B1147.
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Blimey, so it does! Well as far as I know the B1147 is still Dereham to Bawdeswell via Swanton Morley. The B1535 is signed on the A47 at Honingham (which I saw today, which prompted the post), and presumably at the other end on the A1067, and I should be going along there next week so I can find out.

The route on the OS map shown as the B1147 is definitely the one for the new B road, and it's as unappealing on the ground as it appears on the map!
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skiddaw05 wrote:Anyway does someone knowledgeable need to add this to the wiki?
You could have a go yourself - there's a guide on how to do it at Help:Wiki Guides/Roads
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So if it was the B1147, why go to the trouble of renumbering it as B1535?
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Big Nick wrote:So if it was the B1147, why go to the trouble of renumbering it as B1535?
It wasn't the B1147, that's a different route further to the west. It looks like a mistake on the OS 1:25k when they've recently changed it from unclassified to B-road, because other scales still show it as unclassified.
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Stevie D wrote:
Big Nick wrote:So if it was the B1147, why go to the trouble of renumbering it as B1535?
It wasn't the B1147, that's a different route further to the west. It looks like a mistake on the OS 1:25k when they've recently changed it from unclassified to B-road, because other scales still show it as unclassified.
It seems, if the OS is correct, that the old B1147 has been downgraded and replaced with this new B-road. Mistake, quite possibly, but other B-roads - like the B1140 east of Norwich - have been completely rerouted whilst having their number kept in the same area. In fact the B1140 situation is altogether odd as there is a short section left at the Norwich end now completely unconnected with a radically re-routed bulk further east.
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fras wrote:Why bother, was my first thinking. However if a lot of people are using the route it does seem to have some sense if it keeps people on the "right road" and not getting lost and clogging up other, narrower, roads. Does this sort of thing feed into satnavs ?
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If it is a well used route making it a B road will increase its inspection routine and likely maintenance funding levels.
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Interesting. I did a little work on the Honingham roundabout during my time in Area 6. I remember there was some confusion whether this road had a number (which it didn't - it was indeed an OS misprint) but I'm glad to see that it now has :)
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It almost has a number - the number has been allocated but it will only take on that number once the signing is complete. It seems the HA were ahead of the game with their sign on the A47 as the doessn't appear to be any on the route yet or at the other end, but hopefully this will happen pretty soon. Then I might try and update the wiki!
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Latest on this is that the B1147 is no more - it has ceased to be etc.... NCC have taken the high tech approach of taping over any references to the B1147 on their signs. (Yet to see if it's still on HE's signs on the A47)

The 'new' B road will still be numbered the B1535 (and not the B1147 because switching the number from one road to another could 'confuse the locals' - a bit like falling off a log, admittedly). This is a shame as the B1147 number fits in much better locally.
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skiddaw05 wrote:Anyway does someone knowledgeable need to add this to the wiki?
Way ahead of you. :)
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The B1535 is a rural B-road in central Norfolk. The road was unclassified for many years, finally getting its number following an upgrade in 2015, as shown in this SABRE discussion.

The road starts on the A47 Honingham bypass and heads north along Wood Lane. At Fran's Green it bears left then right to pass to the west of the former RAF Attlebridge;

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