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PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2012 10:54 
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A couple of mid morning thoughts for you.

Would anyone object if I restructed the 1922 Road Lists to reflect what's actually in the published article? In other words, a page for zone 1 (ie: A1, A10-A19, A100-A199, A1000- etc etc), one for zone 2, etc etc. If that's too big, we could split them into 'A' and 'B' roads.

As a few of you know, I have a scratch page called Sandbox: 1920s Renumbering, which, as the name implies, was something I started after getting hold of the full 1922 list and working out if there was any sequence to subsequent road numbers, which, at least before 1933, appears to be the case. With this in mind, I'd like to put some actual dates a road "lived" at, although this will probably be something like "created by" and "defunct by" as outside of the MOT maps, it's quite hard to tell when a road came "defunct" without recourse to mapping or local council documentation.

How does that all sound?

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 Post subject: Re: Road dates
PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2012 11:55 
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Sounds fine to me.

Do you know what the A4000 was in draft (other than, one assumes, A405 for the Gunnersbury Park section)? I'm guessing it might have been a B road - certainly it looks too important to be unclassified.

On the 1922 Draft Road Lists page, under zone-4:
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Changes: the renumbering of the draft A407 to A403 and shifting A403-405 up one and making the A406 part of the A4. The A400x set was redone, partially due to some routes (A4000, A4001, A4003) now being in zone 3 with the move of the A4. The A4004 became the A407, the final A4000 and A4006 routes were added, and the order changed for the other routes - not just a shift. Higher numbers shifted downwards by 2, though the A4018 was added so higher numbers only dropped by 1. The A4036 changed for a different route nearby.

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 Post subject: Re: Road dates
PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2012 12:19 
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si404 wrote:
Sounds fine to me.

What I'd quite like is to have something like "Fromdate=1923-04-01", "Fromdate=1940-04" or "Fromdate=1956", so you can go down to the granularity of the actual date if you know it, but otherwise it doesn't matter. Does anyone know how to do this? Wikipedia has a Date template that might be a useful starting point.

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Do you know what the A4000 was in draft (other than, one assumes, A405 for the Gunnersbury Park section)?

Took me a while to spot it but it appears what became the A4000 was the A307 in the draft lists, which ran much further north than Kew. It even took over a bit of the A407 and ran all the way to 5 zone and ended on the (then) A500 in Child's Hill.

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 Post subject: Re: Road dates
PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2012 12:42 
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Took me a while to spot it but it appears what became the A4000 was the A307 in the draft lists, which ran much further north than Kew.
That was my guess. Seems odd it becomes a 4-digit route.
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It even took over a bit of the A407 and ran all the way to 5 zone and ended on the (then) A500 in Child's Hill.
You mean that the new A407 took over the part of it north of there.

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 Post subject: Re: Road dates
PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2012 13:59 
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Ritchie333 wrote:
Does anyone know how to do this? Wikipedia has a Date template that might be a useful starting point.
Sorry, I would think about it, but I don't understand the question!

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PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2012 15:20 
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Ritchie333 wrote:
Does anyone know how to do this? Wikipedia has a Date template that might be a useful starting point.
Sorry, I would think about it, but I don't understand the question!

Well, for example, I'd like to put in a routebox
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Fromdate=1923

which would print From : 1923
Or
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Fromdate=1923-04

which would print From : April, 1923
Or
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Fromdate=1923-04-01

which would print From : 1st April, 1923

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 Post subject: Re: Road dates
PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2012 15:28 
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Ideally, we could do with it supporting rough dates as well - "before 1946" etc.

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 Post subject: Re: Road dates
PostPosted: Thu May 31, 2012 21:32 
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Could we not just have text fields? May not be technically sound, but it is flexible.


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 Post subject: Re: Road dates
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Ritchie333 wrote:
Does anyone know how to do this? Wikipedia has a Date template that might be a useful starting point.


I'll put it on my todo list, unless anyone beats me to it :-)


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