Missing pages

[rileyrob]

Just reviewing my suggested redesign of the Wiki Main Page/Beta and thought it would be a good idea to link the contents list to pages rather than categories where possible. I was shocked.

We have a page for Bridges

However, Junctions, Tunnels, Crossings (the more specific Causeways and Ferries do have pages) and Service Areas (Motorway Service Area does exist, but isn't quite the same) would all be dead links. There are a couple of others too. Unless someone else would like to tackle these, I will have a look tomorrow.

[c2R]

Well.... it stems from how the site grew up... Firstly we didn't really understand what we were doing with some of it, and for other parts of it the technology and plugins around mediawiki grew up around us. Using the categories allowed all the content to be quickly and easily indexed, and then no actual content pages were added around that.

So yes, we should have pages which detail things like what a junction is, generically, and list of things should be available in the categories, or by using lists from pages (e.g. how we show junctions etc. by authority, county, and by type etc. The categories themselves should be dynamically populated from templates in many cases.

[ravenbluemoon]

I was thinking the same thing, some of the links on the main page aren't great for the casual browser - currently if you click on "Class III Roads" you get the Category which primarily lists the sub-categories for each council, whch isn't really user friendly to delve into. I was thinking it should be redirected to some sort of page where you could have the options:

- "Class III Roads by Council" where it'd link to the main council pages (like the Gloucestershire one) with the map and road listings.
- The main Classified Unnumbered road article
- I've got a list of stats that I've been keeping on a spreadsheet that could be nice to have somewhere (total network length, longest road etc.) maybe on the "Class III Roads by Council" page as a table.
- You could still have the sub-category pages on there if it is useful.

I don't mind helping out on this part of it if I can/am able to

[rileyrob]

Junctions page created. Most of the Junction Types seem to have their own page (some could be expanded substantially), so it is just an overview page, much like Bridges. Please feel free to add to any of these pages if you think something is missing / inaccurate.

I was thinking the same thing, some of the links on the main page aren't great for the casual browser - currently if you click on "Class III Roads" you get the Category which primarily lists the sub-categories for each council, whch isn't really user friendly to delve into. I was thinking it should be redirected to some sort of page where you could have the options...

I don't mind helping out on this part of it if I can/am able to

Yes Please, you must have created twice as many English C road pages as I have for Scotland, so are probably best placed to write an overview pages for them. I can add a Scottish Slant if need be afterwards!

Crossings next.

[ravenbluemoon]

Junctions page created. Most of the Junction Types seem to have their own page (some could be expanded substantially), so it is just an overview page, much like Bridges. Please feel free to add to any of these pages if you think something is missing / inaccurate.

I was thinking the same thing, some of the links on the main page aren't great for the casual browser - currently if you click on "Class III Roads" you get the Category which primarily lists the sub-categories for each council, whch isn't really user friendly to delve into. I was thinking it should be redirected to some sort of page where you could have the options...

I don't mind helping out on this part of it if I can/am able to

Yes Please, you must have created twice as many English C road pages as I have for Scotland, so are probably best placed to write an overview pages for them. I can add a Scottish Slant if need be afterwards!

Crossings next.

Cool, I'll start working on a draft over the weekend. I will probably call it "Class III Roads" (at first anyway) so as not to clash with the "Classified Unnumbered" page, which will retain the bulk of the generic information. I've got an idea in my head of how I'd like it, whether or not it'll work in reality is a different matter!

[ravenbluemoon]

Ok, so I've made a start on a landing page for Class III Roads. There's probably a bit more that can be added to it, I don't want to add to much about the terminology/legalities as that's already covered in the Classified Unnumbered page.

One thing that is excellent with the Visual Editor is that tables can be edited a lot more easily than using Wikitext. I was able to work out how to do clever things like collapse tables and merge cells. Might need to check that it looks ok on things like phones.

Rileyrob, feel free to add anything from your knowledge - I managed to calculate the network length for each of your authorities (I think) but by all means correct and add whatever you like!

[Steven]

Ok, so I've made a start on a landing page for Class III Roads. There's probably a bit more that can be added to it, I don't want to add to much about the terminology/legalities as that's already covered in the Classified Unnumbered page.

I've had a quick look at this, and I can't see why this new page couldn't be folded into the existing? It contains a lot of useful information, but with some here and some in Classified Unnumbered road, it feels a bit disjointed to me.

One great 5* page (and a redirect) I'd suggest is better than two that can't really be more than 3* pages.

[ravenbluemoon]

I've had a quick look at this, and I can't see why this new page couldn't be folded into the existing? It contains a lot of useful information, but with some here and some in Classified Unnumbered road, it feels a bit disjointed to me.

One great 5* page (and a redirect) I'd suggest is better than two that can't really be more than 3* pages.

I wouldn't have an issue with putting everything into the Classified Unnumbered road page and having that linked from the front page. My attempt was more of a sandbox to see if could transfer my idea from brain to Wiki, I didn't want to ruin any existing pages!

[ravenbluemoon]

Ok, I've merged some of my page into the Classified Unnumbered road page. Again, please edit/correct as necessary! If folks are happy then we can delete my original version and change the link to the main page.