*grin*
The road has always been a spur of the A1(M), so you are completely correct that it shouldn't go in the database! I just wanted to point out what a complete pigs ear they have made of the signing of this road.....
Ian

I think we're all agreed that the potentialA195(M) is of the same dubious nature as the Walton Summit Motorway...
Steven

I really thought I would be able to give you the definitive answer to this one. I rang my Dad the other day - he was was the Chief Road Traffic Engineer for Washington Development Corporation in the 1970's. Guess what? He retired before the spur was built! Sorry folks .
Steve Howarth

He could answer one specific question for me.
The A182 flares out to an unbuilt wider aerial photo it seems to be making a bee-line for the A19/A690 roundabout. A closer view of the roundabout shows that there is room for another dual carriageway to meet it on its western flank.
So, the question is this - was the A182 going to run all the way to the A19? If not where to? And why wasn't it built?
Ian

Good question - I'll see what my Dad says about it. Having to demolish virtually all of Shiney Row might have caused some opposition, I guess. As I remember, though the roundabout at East Herrington looks big on the photo, I can't see how they would have "plumbed in" another dual-carriageway from Washington.
Incidentally to the west of the original roundabout in question you'll see another one. This has been added only in the last year or two, and the spur coming off it to the WSW parallel to the railway line, will, according to my uncle, eventually sweep generally southward between Houghton and Fence Houses, to come out at the centre or SE corner of this photo.
Steve Howarth

Incidentally to the west of the original roundabout in question you'll see another one. This has been added only in the last year or two, and the spur coming off it to the WSW parallel to the railway line, will, according to my uncle, eventually sweep generally southward between Houghton and Fence Houses, to come out at the centre or SE corner of this photo

Really? Bloody hell! I always thought the spur you mentioned was a link into that big housing estate under construction in the picture. What's been built so far is certainly high quality - 60 limit thrash which makes for a useful bypass of Philadelphia when I go into Washinton or Newcastle.
If they do run it down that far, that means for a nice new high speed road running through the fields at the end of my street. If I were a NIMBY I might be upset. On the other hand, if it shaves 2minutes off my drive home.....
Ian

I spotted the unfinished GSJ at Shiney Row on the A182 at an early age and guessed from looking at the maps that it was always due to be extended to the A19/A690 interchange. It'd make a lot of sense as the links aren't particularly good through that area. There even used to be signs as you approached the not-GSJ indicating you had to turn off, with the "straight-ahead" route being shown as a dead end.
However, I can't see it ever happening now. Plus the new roundabout described above has rather spoilt the continuous flow of the A182. At least it's part of a useful scheme though. A shame, though, because Shiney Row really did get cut up quite badly by that huge unnecessary roundabout. If the A182 is to be routed away, they should probably now look at tidying up round there...

My Dad reckons the big roundabout was built with grade separation in mind,with the long-term possibility of extendingthe roadunder the Shiney Row side of the roundabout. It was thought that the housing stockon that far sidewas old and would eventually be demolished to allow for the road to be built. I can't ever see it happening, now, mind you. However, the most likely destination of this road, according to my Dad, would have been Houghton (not the East Herrington roundabout).
Steve Howarth