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Have You Travelled Along
A4 Hammersmith Flyover 6%  6%  [ 62 ]
Spaghetti Junction 10%  10%  [ 97 ]
Almondsbury Interchange 8%  8%  [ 78 ]
Scotch Corner 9%  9%  [ 87 ]
Gretna Green M6/A74M 9%  9%  [ 85 ]
M1 J28 A38 8%  8%  [ 73 ]
M62 Over Pennines 8%  8%  [ 81 ]
M4 (Severn Bridge)twixt J23/23a 8%  8%  [ 77 ]
M40/a34 jcn 9 8%  8%  [ 73 ]
M25 Dartford crossing 9%  9%  [ 82 ]
M25/M23 Jcn 7 8%  8%  [ 81 ]
M25 Jcn 1 8%  8%  [ 80 ]
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 Post subject: Re: Is There A Road Where All Sabristi Have Travelled Along?
PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 23:47 
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Because I live in the far South East my coverage gets patchy as I get further north. I have never done the M62 over the Pennines, or the Gretna Green section on motorway.(The last time I went along the Gretna Green bypass it was the A74!) I have ticked the M25 J1 option as I have travelled through and around both J1a and J1b extensively.

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 Post subject: Re: Is There A Road Where All Sabristi Have Travelled Along?
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I've done all of them, at least ten of them as a driver. I'm not sure I've driven over the original Severn Bridge or the Pennine section of the M62, but I've definitely been a passenger.

In response to the original question, in my experience a remarkable number of southerners have never ventured north of Manchester or Leeds, and there's quite a lot of Scots and north easterners who have rarely if ever ventured far south. I would have thought that with 2000 SABRE members it's a racing certainty there will be someone who has never been on or south of the M62 and someone who has never been on or north of the M62 and therefore there is no point on the UK road network which all Sabristi have travelled through.

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I'm missing Scotch Corner and the M62

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As I used to be a same day courier, travelling up and down the country doing 85,000 miles a year :shock: I've ticked all of them.

Still in a similar sort of job now as a private hire driver - though people don't tend to travel by car as far as goods!


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I'm only missing the Dartford crossing / "M25" J1. I did consider it late last year when I had to drive from Bromley to South Woodham Ferrers, but I took the Blackwall Tunnel instead.


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Driven the M62 but not between Manchester and Bradford. Ticked all the others.


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I've done most of them (corrections upthread notwithstanding) although not the one that seems to have started this poll, the Hammersmith Flyover. The others I've not done are some of the M25 points and any road Severn Crossing.


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The only one I haven't done was the A4 Hammersmith Flyover, as I haven't been that far into London by car (yet!). Everything else I've done, mostly driving, nearly all as passenger.

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Having done them all long ago (and disregarding the fine niggling points about some), I was considering which was the most recent one that completed the list. I think it's the M40/A34 junction, in the first week the M40 opened there; must be more than 20 years ago now. So I guess that I'd done all of them before many members here were born !


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The only one I haven't done was the A4 Hammersmith Flyover, as I haven't been that far into London by car (yet!).

I have travelled along that as a passenger, but not actually driven along it. I have driven on all the others.

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I've done the lot.

Me too.

Maybe if the options were something like Kirkwall, Stornoway and Lerwick then I won't be able to select any :)


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A perhaps related question that popped into my mind whilst thinking about this:

Is everywhere you've driven (on the mainland UK) connected? In my case it isn't, a few miles of the A38 between Plymouth and Ivybridge separating my driving (although I've been along that bit many times as a passenger).


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I've been on (through?) down the A74(M), round Scotch Corner, through through M1 J28 and through Spaghetti Junction (although not all at once).

In general, the furthest north I've driven is Mallaig, the furthest south Ashorne Hill outside Leamington Spa. The furthest west is the B8008 just before Traigh golf course and the furthest east is the M180 J4.


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Truvelo wrote:
Maybe if the options were something like Kirkwall, Stornoway and Lerwick then I won't be able to select any :)

I'd be able to tick Lerwick. :)


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A surprising point arising from this topic is that, from comments by cb_a1 and michael769 (in chat), their exploration of England by car has been very limited. I wonder how common it is that people living in Scotland largely ignore England as tourists.

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Helvellyn wrote:
A perhaps related question that popped into my mind whilst thinking about this:

Is everywhere you've driven (on the mainland UK) connected? ).


Certainly not in my case, as I have driven two very short distances on Kintyre, (one of them backwards) but was a passenger for the journeys there and back.

I had sustained injuries to my head and shoulder two days before the trip, and was not supposed to drive at all. However, I did help her once by manouevring the car out of the way of an oncoming queue on a single track road, and on another occasion when she was out drove half a mile (on private land) in order to get a mobile phone signal (it was an emergency, the house had been invaded by hundreds of wasps)

Isolated mainland roads I've travelled on as a passenger include:
B8000/A8003/A886/B836/A815/A885 Portavachie to Dunoon (using the ferries to get from Kintyre to Glasgow)
A882 Thurso to Wick (by bus, before the A9 was diverted)
A82/A8005 Tyndrum to Bridge of Orchy, and Inveroran to Kingshouse (hitch-hiking after retiring hurt from the West Highland Way)
and at the other extreme, B3315/A30 Newlyn to Penzance station to Penzance heliport (also by bus)


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A surprising point arising from this topic is that, from comments by cb_a1 and michael769 (in chat), their exploration of England by car has been very limited. I wonder how common it is that people living in Scotland largely ignore England as tourists.
Not just Scotland. Bear in mind that I'm a middle-aged Englishman and didn't move to Scotland till I was in my mid-20's. Taking the same line as I did earlier (Preston to York), between being born (Lancaster) and leaving home at the age of 18 (Penrith), I can only recall travelling south of that line twice. These were both in the 1970's (a trip to Anglesey when I was about 6 years old and a trip to London when I was about 8 years old).

I have no recollection of my peers heading off on trips down South either.

As such, it's maybe not so much of a Scotland / England as a North / South divide?

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I have never travelled north of the M55, and as much as I would like to, I haven't yet found a reason to. But then with my limited day-to-day travelling experience the start of the A34 is pretty much the gateway to the north!

On the list, I've done them all except Scotch Corner and Gretna Green, as you'd expect. I've driven them all myself except the three on the M25, which I haven't done for years.

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PeterA5145 wrote:
A surprising point arising from this topic is that, from comments by cb_a1 and michael769 (in chat), their exploration of England by car has been very limited. I wonder how common it is that people living in Scotland largely ignore England as tourists.

The furthest south I've driven to from Scotland is Silverstone / Northampton area.
We did once fly to Stansted from Edinburgh, hired a car and drove to Wembley, London (never again!)
So picked up parts of the M11, M25 and M1.
So in terms of completing the M1, I've literally a gap between Watford and Watford Gap!
Every other time we've been down to London, we've either flown direct from Dundee to London City, or got the train.


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I think it is a distinace thing for those living at the far ends of the country. Until about 1995 I had never driven anywhere in the North of England let alone Scotland despite have had a full licence since 1982. The "North" for me had consisted of North Wales and Great Yarmouth.

I have done several trips to Yorkshire, Scotland and Cumbria since. However, shoot me now, I've never done the M62 over the Pennines or Scotch Corner.

From the South, the M62 crossing would be tangental to wherever you are going and would have to be done on a seperate or special trip. Both west coast or east coast routes start in very similar (if not the same) spot from here and you would very rarely need to go that way.

As mentioned on the unusal route thread, I did manage to cross the Pennines twice in one trip but just crossed under the M62 at Junction 22.

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