Can somebody explain to Mr Thicky here about what the criteria is for creating these?

For instance, Sowerby Bridge is listed as a junction box - but surely it's a place?

Another thing (yes, yet another) on the back burner for the Wiki and SABRE Maps is integrating with the free OS Place Gazetteer, which would save a lot of time and effort on our part if I could sit down and work out how to integrate it.

Sowerby Bridge (and others) are not primary destinations. What table should I use?

I've used the Place template myself, such as in Tenterden.

Place Template not shown on Lists. However today's now ammended.

What lists?

http://www.sabre-roads.org.uk/wiki/inde ... :Templates perhaps?

I would update it but I am struggling to find a help page for this template.

I don't know much about about any of this lot, aside from the fact I remember using the "Place" template a few times. Your best bet is to try and poke Jeni from out of her slumber and say "what's this do?"

I'll write something up soon.

For now, use Smethwick (and its associated Category:Smethwick) as a template for non-primary destinations.

In the meantime, if you're trying to bodge something on the Wiki, you'll probably break something. It's best to just ask.

*Awakens*

Yeah, the {{Place}} template is the way forward! IIRC, the syntax is almost exactly the same as the primary destination template (Since it is exactly the same template )

*Returns to cave*

Thanks Jeni! How's the rubbing two sticks together coming along?

About as well as telling Steven he lives in the West Midlands!

Just bear in mind that creating a non-primary destination (place) isn't the same as creating a junction.

Roads and junctions need to be categorised, the place category needs to have the relevant bits added to it and so on.


This of course leads onto the discussion of what places need to be added? I'm not enamoured with the idea that every village or small town that a F99 runs through deserves a page, which is what seems to be happening.

Indeed. I mentioned it upthread, but I'll stress it a bit more now. Don't go mad on adding places or junctions. The OS Gazetteer has a quarter of a million places, all with grid references. Let's not reinvent the wheel.

Without wishing to come over all Wikipedia like and spouting on about "General Notability Guidelines", I'd take care to only create places that are significant enough roadwise to warrant them. Notice how I created "Tenterden" (moderately sized town - signed from at least two primary destinations) but not "Biddenden" (er, which isn't). My basic rule of thumb for non primary places has been that it must appear in capitals on OS 1:250,000 coverage.

I've been a bit more vague - a place that I would consider to be almost a Primary Destination. Examples include Ludlow which is by far the biggest place in SW Shropshire and a local focus point of the road network, and Smethwick which is a surprisingly large place (and former County Borough even), but which isn't a PD because it's right up against Birmingham.

Other than that, it would be places where there's interesting features of the local network, like Willenhall (the Staffordshire one, not the Warwickshire one) which has three different bypasses. I can talk a bit about that, yet nearby Bilston (which is pretty much the same size) isn't interesting enough road-wise.

I learned this when making the page for Droitwich Spa.

Why the rolled eyes? The page was good, it just needed a little bit of minor formatting. Happens to stuff I add all the time.

The rolled eyes were because when I was editing it to add more information (as before it was a one sentence article with a map), the computer crashed 7 times when I pressed submit (very tedious).

What error message did you receive when you pressed "Submit"?

When you say "crashed", I normally interpret that as either this or this.

On one occasion I did get the 'Blue Screen of Death' but on all the others it just froze I could only unstick the program via Task Manager (ie end program).

Sounds like a dodgy RAM stick