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 Post subject: Scenic Route mapping
PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 17:02 
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Whenever I drive in France, I use a trusty Michelin atlas which shows all number of 'scenic' routes by highlighting road edges in green. It means that even on a relatively short journey, it's sometimes worth taking a slightly longer route because you can be sure of a more attractive journey.
I've never found anything to match the completeness of the Michelin approach when looking at UK road atlases.
Does such an atlas exist that shows a broad range of 'attractive diversions'?
And if not, why not?

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 Post subject: Re: Scenic Route mapping
PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 17:07 
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I've got a Michelin atlas of the UK and Ireland, dating from the early to mid-90s, that does the same thing. It also distinguishes between high-quality and lower-quality dual carriageways. Seeing the UK mapped in "Continental" style gives a different perspective.

A quick web search suggests it's no longer produced - I've certainly not seen one recently.

I think I got it as a free gift for taking out a year's subscription to Top Gear magazine.

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 Post subject: Re: Scenic Route mapping
PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 17:40 
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PeterA5145 wrote:
A quick web search suggests it's no longer produced - I've certainly not seen one recently.


The UK Michelin Atlas for 2012 seems to use A to Z mapping; I bought one as a way of getting A to Z mapping in a useful sized format. It is probably not worth their effort to produce their own mapping for the UK when sales are relatively low.

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 Post subject: Re: Scenic Route mapping
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This prompts the question and I'm sure a debate: What would we in Sabre include in a map if we were producing it? Further as we have the wiki, is it something (a list) we should create for reference?

Some would broker no argument I feel. To start:

A87 Glen Shiel
A82 Glen Coe

One of my own choosing:

B3306 St Ives to St Just

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 Post subject: Re: Scenic Route mapping
PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 18:51 
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The UK Michelin Atlas for 2012 seems to use A to Z mapping; I bought one as a way of getting A to Z mapping in a useful sized format. It is probably not worth their effort to produce their own mapping for the UK when sales are relatively low.
Noticed that - disappointing.

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 Post subject: Re: Scenic Route mapping
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I know the AA atlases now include a similar attempt at showing scenic routes, using the same technique of highlighting the edge of the road in green, but I don't know how it compares to Michelin's previous efforts.

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 Post subject: Re: Scenic Route mapping
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I have an AA atlas from a few years ago. It include scenic mapping for Ireland but not GB which I find odd.

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 Post subject: Re: Scenic Route mapping
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As I feared - maybe that's a SABRE project for the future!

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 Post subject: Re: Scenic Route mapping
PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 19:03 
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Certainly AA atlases do highlight A- and B-roads with a green line to indicate that they're scenic. Apparently there aren't any scenic motorways. :wink:

Of course, whether a road is scenic or not depends on the opinion of the cartographer - I've had several disagreements with an atlas as I don't think the beauty of a road has been appropriately labelled....

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 Post subject: Re: Scenic Route mapping
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vlad wrote:
Apparently there aren't any scenic motorways. :wink:
The M4 and M48 Severn Bridges are marked as scenic!


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 Post subject: Re: Scenic Route mapping
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PeterA5145 wrote:
I've got a Michelin atlas of the UK and Ireland, dating from the early to mid-90s, that does the same thing. It also distinguishes between high-quality and lower-quality dual carriageways. Seeing the UK mapped in "Continental" style gives a different perspective.

A quick web search suggests it's no longer produced - I've certainly not seen one recently.

I think I got it as a free gift for taking out a year's subscription to Top Gear magazine.

I just dug this out - dated 1994. A nice atlas, 1:300 000, scale, covering the whole of Ireland as well, and including a lot of detailed town plans and enlargements of urban areas.

There's a bit of scenic route marked on the M74 near Crawford, but nothing on the M6 through Lunesdale and over Shap which arguably is considerably more scenic. The A74 (as was) is shown as scenic pretty much all the way down to Lockerbie.

Most of the well-known roads in the Peak District are marked as well, including the A626 between Marple and Dinting, a fair bit of which is actually built up. I suppose it's inevitable the selection of scenic roads will seem a little arbitrary. I find it surprising, for example, that none of the B-roads radiating south and west from Bridgnorth and Much Wenlock through the Shropshire Hills are marked in green.

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