Sadlers Farm, A13 and A130

simonjm1 · **Joined:** Wed Apr 04, 2012 12:04 **Posts:** 52

jam_man wrote:

Sean123 wrote:

I agree, but it can't be any more than one lane because Canvey Way wouldn't be able to cater for it.

It's going to be interesting to see what happens but I'm pretty sure traffic is going to bottle neck on Canvey Way resulting in the traffic piling up on the roundabout, but we'll see.

I thought that slip road was going to roundabout to feed both benfleet and canvey, is that not the case?

me too...im still struggling to work it out....and ive spent hours contemplating it from my motor every evening....

jam_man · **Joined:** Mon Apr 16, 2012 10:09 **Posts:** 41

I cant see how Benfleet people are going to get to Benfleet other wise.

Surely they go over pitsea, get in left hand land and take the slip road over the bridge down to roundabout with the Canvey folk.

In which case all of the traffic thats queueing for the roundabout now less the A130 bound traffic (say 30%) will all be going over that one lane slip road.

Doesnt sound enough to me.

simonjm1 · **Joined:** Wed Apr 04, 2012 12:04 **Posts:** 52

jam_man wrote:

I cant see how Benfleet people are going to get to Benfleet other wise.

Surely they go over pitsea, get in left hand land and take the slip road over the bridge down to roundabout with the Canvey folk.

In which case all of the traffic thats queueing for the roundabout now less the A130 bound traffic (say 30%) will all be going over that one lane slip road.

Doesnt sound enough to me.

im going to start a "Bring back the magic roundabout Campaign"

my inlaws tell me it was one big roundabout years ago and it didnt work then...

this has got "fail" written all over it!!

Sean123 · **Joined:** Fri Nov 18, 2011 17:14 **Posts:** 126

If you look at the original drawings it would almost definitely indicate that the link from the A13 to Canvey Way will be 2 lanes, although in reality it looks nowhere near wide enough.

jam_man · **Joined:** Mon Apr 16, 2012 10:09 **Posts:** 41

simonjm1 wrote:

jam_man wrote:

I cant see how Benfleet people are going to get to Benfleet other wise.

Surely they go over pitsea, get in left hand land and take the slip road over the bridge down to roundabout with the Canvey folk.

In which case all of the traffic thats queueing for the roundabout now less the A130 bound traffic (say 30%) will all be going over that one lane slip road.

Doesnt sound enough to me.

im going to start a "Bring back the magic roundabout Campaign"

my inlaws tell me it was one big roundabout years ago and it didnt work then...

this has got "fail" written all over it!!

I remember it as a big roundabout, lot fewer cars back in them days though!

Sean123 · **Joined:** Fri Nov 18, 2011 17:14 **Posts:** 126

jam_man wrote:

Sean123 wrote:

I agree, but it can't be any more than one lane because Canvey Way wouldn't be able to cater for it.

It's going to be interesting to see what happens but I'm pretty sure traffic is going to bottle neck on Canvey Way resulting in the traffic piling up on the roundabout, but we'll see.

I thought that slip road was going to roundabout to feed both benfleet and canvey, is that not the case?

No, just Canvey traffic. People travelling to Benfleet will have to navigate the roundabout the normal way, so they would approach the roundabout in the left hand lane while traffic for Canvey will stick right and take the road that has been built through the actual roundabout.

I take it that's what you mean, or have we got our wires crossed?

jam_man · **Joined:** Mon Apr 16, 2012 10:09 **Posts:** 41

Sean123 wrote:

If you look at the original drawings it would almost definitely indicate that the link from the A13 to Canvey Way will be 2 lanes, although in reality it looks nowhere near wide enough.

Yep certainly looks like two lanes.

Thats a relief !

Agree that at moment it doesnt look like two lane width so might be a squeeze with two lorries!

jam_man · **Joined:** Mon Apr 16, 2012 10:09 **Posts:** 41

Sean123 wrote:

jam_man wrote:

Sean123 wrote:

I agree, but it can't be any more than one lane because Canvey Way wouldn't be able to cater for it.

It's going to be interesting to see what happens but I'm pretty sure traffic is going to bottle neck on Canvey Way resulting in the traffic piling up on the roundabout, but we'll see.

I thought that slip road was going to roundabout to feed both benfleet and canvey, is that not the case?

No, just Canvey traffic. People travelling to Benfleet will have to navigate the roundabout the normal way, so they would approach the roundabout in the left hand lane while traffic for Canvey will stick right and take the road that has been built through the actual roundabout.

I take it that's what you mean, or have we got our wires crossed?

The part I was referring to was the bit on the A13 eastbound where you turn off to go up to the new bridge.

I can see how they are splitting the traffic which seems ok.

It does look like the end of the tunnel is at least visible now, by those dates it would appear in two weeks things will improve greatly.
I assume Benfleet > A130 have to traverse the whole roundabout now which seems a bit convoluted.

michaelbri · **Joined:** Fri Mar 16, 2012 15:32 **Posts:** 72

I thought that slip road was going to roundabout to feed both benfleet and canvey, is that not the case?[/quote]

No, just Canvey traffic. People travelling to Benfleet will have to navigate the roundabout the normal way, so they would approach the roundabout in the left hand lane while traffic for Canvey will stick right and take the road that has been built through the actual roundabout.
I take it that's what you mean, or have we got our wires crossed?[/quote]

The part I was referring to was the bit on the A13 eastbound where you turn off to go up to the new bridge.

I can see how they are splitting the traffic which seems ok.

It does look like the end of the tunnel is at least visible now, by those dates it would appear in two weeks things will improve greatly.
I assume Benfleet > A130 have to traverse the whole roundabout now which seems a bit convoluted.[/quote]

looks like benfleet gets two lanes and canvey one,although one of the benfleet lanes looks like it goes to old A13,might be some cutting into the roundabout there.Oh it is going to be fun.,would have been simpler to build an underpass to tarpots surely ?

jam_man · **Joined:** Mon Apr 16, 2012 10:09 **Posts:** 41

Tarpots is the end of the line, no point building an underpass to take people an extra 300 yards when they have to stop anyway.

The underpass to the A130 is ideal.

Shame they couldnt get a non stop flow to Canvey.

simonjm1 · **Joined:** Wed Apr 04, 2012 12:04 **Posts:** 52

michaelbri wrote:

I thought that slip road was going to roundabout to feed both benfleet and canvey, is that not the case?

No, just Canvey traffic. People travelling to Benfleet will have to navigate the roundabout the normal way, so they would approach the roundabout in the left hand lane while traffic for Canvey will stick right and take the road that has been built through the actual roundabout.
I take it that's what you mean, or have we got our wires crossed?[/quote]

The part I was referring to was the bit on the A13 eastbound where you turn off to go up to the new bridge.

I can see how they are splitting the traffic which seems ok.

It does look like the end of the tunnel is at least visible now, by those dates it would appear in two weeks things will improve greatly.
I assume Benfleet > A130 have to traverse the whole roundabout now which seems a bit convoluted.[/quote]

looks like benfleet gets two lanes and canvey one,although one of the benfleet lanes looks like it goes to old A13,might be some cutting into the roundabout there.Oh it is going to be fun.,would have been simpler to build an underpass to tarpots surely ?[/quote]

Dont confuse matters!! as long as its an improvement its 63 quid well spent!!

jam_man · **Joined:** Mon Apr 16, 2012 10:09 **Posts:** 41

So much for the underpass helping :

A13
From: Stanford-le-Hope Bypass To: Salders Farm Roundabout
stationary traffic for 5.3 km, with a delay of 25 min.

simonjm1 · **Joined:** Wed Apr 04, 2012 12:04 **Posts:** 52

jam_man wrote:

So much for the underpass helping :

A13
From: Stanford-le-Hope Bypass To: Salders Farm Roundabout
stationary traffic for 5.3 km, with a delay of 25 min.

GREAT....

jam_man · **Joined:** Mon Apr 16, 2012 10:09 **Posts:** 41

From: A176 To: Salders Farm Roundabout
stationary traffic for 6.0 km, with a delay of 31.5 min.

Looks like a 20 mile detour again tonight then.

Sean123 · **Joined:** Fri Nov 18, 2011 17:14 **Posts:** 126

SHAMBLES

tronprogram · **Joined:** Sat Apr 21, 2012 11:09 **Posts:** 3

Currently stuck in the usual long traffic at the roundabout under the Pitsea flyover. The new road appears to had no affect at all. This is all being caused by Tarpots being closed down to one lane.

Utter rubbish!

Runwell · **Joined:** Wed Jun 30, 2010 00:16 **Posts:** 463

Just driven along the northbound link road. Trouble is hardly anyone is using it. It is signposted at 1/2then 1/4 mile, but as you say most traffic is stuck due to Tar pots.

Runwell · **Joined:** Wed Jun 30, 2010 00:16 **Posts:** 463

I guess most people who would use link road are already diverting into A127 by either taking the M25 or A128, or finding any other route around there like thru Basildon or from Billericay to Wickford or via A12.

Recorded a video driving thru the link which I will try to upload shortly

Runwell · **Joined:** Wed Jun 30, 2010 00:16 **Posts:** 463

Suspect all these tweets are all connected to Sadlers Farm...

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A127 Eastbound - Heavy traffic between B186 (Warley) & A129 (Rayleigh) due to motorists avoiding the delays caused by roadworks on the A13.

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FavoritedFavorite · Close Open Details A12 Northbound - Heavy traffic from J11 (M25/Brook Street Roundabout) to J13 (Ingatestone).

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A132 Northbound - Heavy traffic from Cranes Farm Road, Basildon to Cranfield Park Road, Wickford.

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A13 Eastbound - Heavy traffic from the A176 (Five Bells) to the A130 (Sadler's Farm Roundabout) because of roadworks.

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Bowers Gifford - B1464 London Road is slow moving eastbound between Pitsea and Sadler's Farm Roundabout.

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A130 Southbound - Slow moving traffic from the A1245 (Rayleigh Spur Roundabout) to the A13 (Sadler's Farm Roundabout) due to roadworks.

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FavoritedFavorite · Close Open Details long delays on A13 Stanford-Le-Hope Sadlers Farm Roundabout in North Benfleet. In the roadworks area. Travel time is 40 minutes.

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These frigging roadworks at Sadlers Farm are a joke! It's taken me 35 mins to get from five bells to pitsea.

So much for improving.....

Sean123 · **Joined:** Fri Nov 18, 2011 17:14 **Posts:** 126

You must have drove past me Runwell as I was in the southbound queue. You're right, in the 20 minutes I sat looking at the underpass I only saw a handful cars using it.

Let's give it a chance, it's only been open a day and I imagine most are unaware of it. Let's see how the week unfolds.....

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