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Graham: <<Chris and I were also wondering about the same question as to whether a message should be posted on usenet, specifically mtr and ukt, about the existence of this group.Pros are that it raises the profile and expands the membership, but the negatives are that it allows the trolls and 'greenies' yet another platform.>> I don't see anything wrong with a little appropriate advertising. I've emailed a little spiel to Richard G for him to include in his next update - perhaps you or someone else could post it to those groups as well. (I've no Usenet access at the moment, and anyway it's better coming from a regular than an outsider.) If you hold on a couple of days, we'll have a simpler domain name covering not just SABRE but all the other main roads sites as well - I'll post details when it goes live. << Personally, I have no problem in talking about buying new cars, maintenance,roadtrips oranything else related to the main topic area.Indeed, I have no problem, with talking about the associated topics such as planning, new railways or airports, transport politics etc.Themessage boards were reset by Guy to allow for these types of discussions.The core topic should nevertheless be British roads.>> Indeed - I don't have a problem with straying onto related topics as long as they're of interest to the members. The current discussion on local government boundaries, for instance, is tangential to roads policy but I think it's worth pursuing. By the way, if anyone has any suggestions for extra boards, please let me know. << One option, raised by Guy,was to email certain individuals, who we thought may be interested in the group.I suspect this may be a better bet.If we're talking about,say, ten people, I don't think that really qualifies as spamming.>> Not at all, if you're discriminating about it. What I've been doing (not systematically), if I find an interesting website, is to email the author personally to ask them if they'd like to join, mentioning relevant content from their site. I think it'd be a good idea if more of us did that. << Going back to the subject of mtr, I suspect most of the Brits were starting to feel the same as you.I like road discussion in general, butmost of the mtr stuff was and is getting too parochial for what is supposed to be a global forum.Gave up on ukt ages ago.Same old topics over and over again and constant flamewars. Let's hope SABRE stays a bit more civilised!! >> It ought to -- don't forget that, unlike most of Usenet, this site is run by a team of managers who can keep unwelcome posts off the boards if necessary (or even ban members). Fortunately we haven't had to do this yet, and let's hope we never have to! Guy
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