Rare Roadsigns

[Big L]

Are there many "Low flying helicopter or sudden helicopter noise likely ahead" signs around? The only one I can remember passing was on the A30 at Penzance, but that's gone because they closed the heliport there.

They're rare but not unheard of.
This one is on the A41 near Tern Hill, Shropshire.

A51 near Hixon.

[Conekicker]

Considering that array of signs is on a motorway exit slip, it's completely brainless - how would any of the prohibited movements get there in the first place? 0/10 for whoever put them up.

A pedestrian could alight a vehicle after the end of the motorway if the prohibition wasn't signed.

Not on a clearway they couldn't.

[Mettie]

The one that always gets me is the ‘No explosives’ sign. Why would anyone have a legitimate reason for doing so?? Even if you work for a construction or demolition company.

The main place I remember seeing it is in Lincoln, of all places.

The reason is explained in this thread https://www.sabre-roads.org.uk/forum/v ... e644b4ab5a


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[RichardA626]

The A500 near Stoke has at least 1 "no horsedrawn vehicles" sign, as does the A627(M) near Oldham.

There are certainly a couple on the approaches to the Meir Tunnel a few miles away.

I've mentioned the possibly unique worded "no track laying vehicles" at Top Lock in Marple.

I've placed a few of these around Walsall. There are a few hump back bridges over canals in the borough which have particularly sharp, steep summits. Track laying vehicles have no vertical clearance, consequently on reaching and crossing the summit the first few lines of axles will leave the road surface until the weight of the vehicle brings it crashing back down on to the bridge deck. Not ideal for 200 year old structures.

Right, the bridge at top lock does have a hump on it.

Talking of helicopter signs, does the road between Helston & Culdrose base have any?

When I was in the area in 1992 it had some low flying aeroplanes or sudden aeroplane noise ones, before the helicopter one came along.

[Big L]

I've mentioned the possibly unique worded "no track laying vehicles" at Top Lock in Marple.

Just outside Penkridge but I'm not 100% certain it's still there.
Walsall Wood which could be one of Bfivethousand's. This bridge is very steep on both sides, and from this side is the only hill ever to defeat me in the snow.

[Bryn666]

There's a no horse drawn vehicles restriction on Burdock Way and Ovenden Road in Halifax.

I replaced some of the 1973 vintage signs... the originals might be in my possession.

[Glen]

Not on a clearway they couldn't.

They could do legally if the vehicle pulled onto the verge. And the presence of the clearway probably wouldn't stop some people letting passengers out while stopped at the give way at the roundabout.

Either way, the restrictions will need to be signed from both ends to be enforceable. Otherwise how could it be proved that a pedestrian on that road had passed a sign prohibiting them.

[Stevie D]

Not on a clearway they couldn't.

They could do legally if the vehicle pulled onto the verge. And the presence of the clearway probably wouldn't stop some people letting passengers out while stopped at the give way at the roundabout.

Parking restrictions and clearways apply to the verge as well as the main carriageway.

[Bryn666]

They don't. You need a second TRO to prevent verge parking.

Clearways apply to main carriageways only; it's yellow and red lines that apply to the back of the verge or footway.

[Nwallace]

Considering that array of signs is on a motorway exit slip, it's completely brainless - how would any of the prohibited movements get there in the first place? 0/10 for whoever put them up.

A pedestrian could alight a vehicle after the end of the motorway if the prohibition wasn't signed.

You and your wife could be transporting your horse in a horse van towing a trailer with a trap along with your wife's bicycle, and if you didn't pass that sign you would not be aware of the restrictions that:
Prevent you walking on/in the vicinity of the carriageway
Prevent you leading the horse from the box and hitching it to the carriage
Prevent your wife from riding her bike along side the horse and trap as you ride it along the spur.

The only thing in that scenario I don't see a sign preventing you from doing is parking the horse van and trailer on the carriageway.

There is a change in restrictions applied, and since the motorway end sign cancels the motorway restrictions it is absolutely required that that sign is present for you to know what you can't do on the road you are on. It is absolutely not brainless.

[Bryn666]

What was brainless was removing the motorway status in the first place.

[Nwallace]

The Edinburgh bypass is another example of the horse restrictions

https://goo.gl/maps/HtTDsnxfPP32

And again you approach those restrictions from a motorway (but the roundabout isn't a motorway)
https://goo.gl/maps/nzVAX1YXi7D2

And I've just realized there's no restriction signs on the Hermiston Gait A720 slip road...
You can get to the roundabout without passing a restriction sign, and AFAIK there's no restriction on the A71 which shares the slip so there is no room for the sign.
I'm not about to test that out on the bike though...

[WHBM]

Within 30 minutes of reading this thread I'd seen several of the mentioned ones.

TfL tunnels have a large "space rocket" of prohibition signs at the entrance. No Explosives, No Horse-drawn, as mentioned here, among others. I get the impression that the No Horse-drawn is also normally erected only where there has been a continuing problem with it, hence having it at a motorway exit.

Our local park has a "No more than 6 dogs together" sign at the entrance, aimed at 'professional' dog-walkers; semi-amusing artwork obviously based on traffic signage with a text plate underneath. Not TSRGD as far as I am aware. I'll have to get a photograph.

[DB617]

There are 'no horse-drawn' signs where the A4232 meets the A4234 at the brand new East Bay Link in Cardiff Docks - a short stretch of 40mph dual carriageway viaduct. Strange for visitors, but locals know that there is a gypsy camp on the docks at Rover Way, which is an S2 road on the route the Cardiff ring road would have (may still?) used. The East Bay Link forms part of the missing link and now allows traffic to use Rover Way to move between the eastern and western parts of the coast within the city. Unfortunately it also gave the gypsies access to Cardiff Bay... But not by horse cart, thanks to that sign.

[exiled]

Somehow the fact that there is a differentialtion between 'feral' and 'wild' goats on those signs is great. And why not positively livid goats?

[lefthandedspanner]

There's a couple of signs on the A55 warning about badgers, one near the A494 junction at Ewloe and another one further west, somewhere near Abergele if memory serves.

[Bryn666]

Within 30 minutes of reading this thread I'd seen several of the mentioned ones.

TfL tunnels have a large "space rocket" of prohibition signs at the entrance. No Explosives, No Horse-drawn, as mentioned here, among others. I get the impression that the No Horse-drawn is also normally erected only where there has been a continuing problem with it, hence having it at a motorway exit.

Our local park has a "No more than 6 dogs together" sign at the entrance, aimed at 'professional' dog-walkers; semi-amusing artwork obviously based on traffic signage with a text plate underneath. Not TSRGD as far as I am aware. I'll have to get a photograph.

Most tunnel prohibition signs are now the catch all ADR category signs which are Europe-wide.

https://www.transportinfo.org/adr/adr-tunnel-codes/

[Alderpoint]

Either way, the restrictions will need to be signed from both ends to be enforceable.

I was originally going to post the sign at the other end of the road precisely to avoid this debate - but on GSV it's mostly hidden in the hedge.

[Berk]

There's a couple of signs on the A55 warning about badgers, one near the A494 junction at Ewloe and another one further west, somewhere near Abergele if memory serves.

You’d think there’d be a ‘cuddly badger’ pictogram they could use for that. They could also do with some of those signs on the A47...

[Glen]

I was originally going to post the sign at the other end of the road precisely to avoid this debate - but on GSV it's mostly hidden in the hedge.

Here's a photo of it instead.



Of course, the motorway restriction sign would negate the need for all those listed restrictions...