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Re: Newest abandoned roads?

Post by KeithW » Tue Dec 07, 2021 23:52

There was a major exercise around 2008 to review BOATS (Byways Open To All) and as a result in 2008 many were reclassified as Resticted ByWays

In this case you can see the bollards that were installed to prevent motor vehicle access.
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@52.48397 ... 384!8i8192


The same thing was done in South Cambs here where a gate was put across
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@52.12911 ... 6656?hl=en

The other end came out here.
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@52.13028 ... 8192?hl=en

The main reason for doing this was these were dirt roads and a single 4x4 could essentially destroy the route.

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Re: Newest abandoned roads?

Post by Unbreakify » Wed Dec 08, 2021 07:39

To answer my own question, i accidentally found what appears to be a bypassed dual carrigeway abandoned in 2008 / 2009.

Link: https://www.google.com/maps/place/51%C2 ... -1.8033318
Does anyone know the backstory? It looks intresentingly similar to the A12. Except it doesnt dead end.
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Re: Newest abandoned roads?

Post by Unbreakify » Wed Dec 08, 2021 07:46

jabbaboy wrote:
Tue Dec 07, 2021 20:14
Unbreakify wrote:
Tue Dec 07, 2021 19:57
jabbaboy wrote:
Tue Dec 07, 2021 18:45
Woodbine Terrace was extended and attached to new bridge here and has recently been abandoned, it only opened in 2018. It's a dead end now.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Gates ... d-1.603411
Im confused. Could you better explain? i do not see any dead end. :)
It's a bit of a mess the Google Maps for the new road it only opened a few weeks ago but Woodbine Terrace you can't access the A1231.

Openstreetmaps has the right layout - https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/54.91412/-1.41609
I see now. Google maps has to take years for some maps to update - the last time my own sat view was updated was in 2019, Originally 2006 / 2005! They need to do it quicker, but then again, clouds..

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Re: Newest abandoned roads?

Post by Unbreakify » Wed Dec 08, 2021 07:49

Worcestershire Wolf wrote:
Tue Dec 07, 2021 20:51
Gothersley Lane an unclassified road in South Staffordshire just outside Stourbridge was abandoned as a road sometime between 2009 (when StreetView first went down) and 2020 (when I discovered it). It is still accessible as a narrow overgrown footpath and it's amazing to think that only a few years ago it was accessible by motor vehicles.

A trip along the whole lane was taken by StreetView in 2009, but obviously could not be repeated in 2021!

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@52.48397 ... 384!8i8192

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@52.48430 ... 384!8i8192
Shh! Dont remind them! They'll delete it just like any old road!

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Re: Newest abandoned roads?

Post by Steven » Wed Dec 08, 2021 07:52

Unbreakify wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 07:39
To answer my own question, i accidentally found what appears to be a bypassed dual carrigeway abandoned in 2008 / 2009.

Coords: 51.61783274537487, -1.8033318387620498
Does anyone know the backstory? It looks intresentingly similar to the A12. Except it doesnt dead end.
I know this is a bit metadiscussion which is generally frowned upon, but if you would provide a link to SABRE Maps for locations you're looking at (preferably with a text description), then you're more likely to get people engaging rather than expecting them to have to go to the hassle of trying to work out what and where you're talking about.

In this case (assuming I've got the correct location), as can be easily seen from the historic mapping on SABRE Maps it's the old route of the A419 prior to the Blunsdon bypass.
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Re: Newest abandoned roads?

Post by Unbreakify » Wed Dec 08, 2021 08:01

Steven wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 07:52
Unbreakify wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 07:39
To answer my own question, i accidentally found what appears to be a bypassed dual carrigeway abandoned in 2008 / 2009.

Coords: 51.61783274537487, -1.8033318387620498
Does anyone know the backstory? It looks intresentingly similar to the A12. Except it doesnt dead end.
I know this is a bit metadiscussion which is generally frowned upon, but if you would provide a link to SABRE Maps for locations you're looking at (preferably with a text description), then you're more likely to get people engaging rather than expecting them to have to go to the hassle of trying to work out what and where you're talking about.

In this case (assuming I've got the correct location), as can be easily seen from the historic mapping on SABRE Maps it's the old route of the A419 prior to the Blunsdon bypass.
I see. The link is: https://www.google.com/maps/place/51%C2 ... -1.8033318

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Re: Newest abandoned roads?

Post by Alderpoint » Wed Dec 08, 2021 08:46

Not sure when Ravenshaw Lane, Solihull was abandoned, but it might have been a long time ago as it's a white road on the OS seventh series and shown as incomplete on the 1:25000 maps.

But I'm sure it wasn't abandoned as long ago as this Yorkshire candidate.
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Re: Newest abandoned roads?

Post by KeithW » Wed Dec 08, 2021 11:14

Alderpoint wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 08:46
Not sure when Ravenshaw Lane, Solihull was abandoned, but it might have been a long time ago as it's a white road on the OS seventh series and shown as incomplete on the 1:25000 maps.

But I'm sure it wasn't abandoned as long ago as this Yorkshire candidate.
Around about AD410 I would say, unless I miss my guess its the Roman Road over Wheeldale Moor to the signal station at Ravenscar.

Ravenscar itself of course has an abandoned system of roads, it is the would be rival to Scarborough that never happened. It even had a railway station.
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@54.40193 ... 6656?hl=en


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Re: Newest abandoned roads?

Post by wrinkly » Wed Dec 08, 2021 11:30

Steven wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 07:52
Unbreakify wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 07:39
To answer my own question, i accidentally found what appears to be a bypassed dual carrigeway abandoned in 2008 / 2009.

Coords: 51.61783274537487, -1.8033318387620498
Does anyone know the backstory? It looks intresentingly similar to the A12. Except it doesnt dead end.
I know this is a bit metadiscussion which is generally frowned upon, but if you would provide a link to SABRE Maps for locations you're looking at (preferably with a text description), then you're more likely to get people engaging rather than expecting them to have to go to the hassle of trying to work out what and where you're talking about.

In this case (assuming I've got the correct location), as can be easily seen from the historic mapping on SABRE Maps it's the old route of the A419 prior to the Blunsdon bypass.
First dualled online, later bypassed as attitudes and policies changed, so quite like the A12 and a number of other examples around the country.

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Re: Newest abandoned roads?

Post by KeithW » Wed Dec 08, 2021 11:56

wrinkly wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 11:30
Steven wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 07:52
Unbreakify wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 07:39
To answer my own question, i accidentally found what appears to be a bypassed dual carrigeway abandoned in 2008 / 2009.

Coords: 51.61783274537487, -1.8033318387620498
Does anyone know the backstory? It looks intresentingly similar to the A12. Except it doesnt dead end.
I know this is a bit metadiscussion which is generally frowned upon, but if you would provide a link to SABRE Maps for locations you're looking at (preferably with a text description), then you're more likely to get people engaging rather than expecting them to have to go to the hassle of trying to work out what and where you're talking about.

In this case (assuming I've got the correct location), as can be easily seen from the historic mapping on SABRE Maps it's the old route of the A419 prior to the Blunsdon bypass.
First dualled online, later bypassed as attitudes and policies changed, so quite like the A12 and a number of other examples around the country.
Rather like the old A19 in Billingham
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@54.60313 ... 8192?hl=en

https://www.sabre-roads.org.uk/maps/ind ... 8,-1.32544,

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Re: Newest abandoned roads?

Post by Rillington » Wed Dec 08, 2021 15:15

wrinkly wrote:
Tue Dec 07, 2021 15:52
solocle wrote:
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The A74 Cumberland Gap jumped to mind, being completed in 2008. I don't know if the service road is in any way the old A74, though, or just a new build.
86573799-73C3-4747-98FA-D716EA38BE93.jpeg
The service road includes sections of the old (pre-1970 and pre-1973) single carriageway A74 at each end, and is new build in the middle. There are virtually no remains of the 1970-2008 dual carriageway A74 separate from the motorway. Where the service road crosses the river Esk it's roughly on the line of the former northbound carriageway.
I'd have thought that quite a few stretches of the A74 would count.

Also, the sections of the A1 which were abandoned when the a1M was created, such as alongside the A1246 at Fairburn and immediately to the north.

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Re: Newest abandoned roads?

Post by jnty » Wed Dec 08, 2021 15:39

How about this old bit of link road to the M90, severed by a project which finished in 2019. I'm not sure what it does now or what fractions of it have been truly abandoned vs destroyed/repurposed as the Google imagery isn't up to date yet.

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Re: Newest abandoned roads?

Post by KeithW » Wed Dec 08, 2021 16:09

Rillington wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 15:15


I'd have thought that quite a few stretches of the A74 would count.

Also, the sections of the A1 which were abandoned when the a1M was created, such as alongside the A1246 at Fairburn and immediately to the north.
Alongside the A74(M) much of the old A74 is the B7076
farther north the old road is now B7078

The old A1 north of Ferrybridge is the A1246 to just west of Selby Fork were it becomes the A63 up to Milford. It is not abandoned but it has been reduced to S2 between Brotherton and the A63

South of Ferrybridge to Darrington the old A1 its now the A162

To list all the bypassed sections of A1 you would need to write a book but Wolfie Cooper has already done that :)
The A1 Then and Now

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Re: Newest abandoned roads?

Post by SteelCamel » Wed Dec 08, 2021 16:34

jnty wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 15:39
How about this old bit of link road to the M90, severed by a project which finished in 2019. I'm not sure what it does now or what fractions of it have been truly abandoned vs destroyed/repurposed as the Google imagery isn't up to date yet.
It does look like it still exists. Although you can't go along that road in streetview, if you zoom in you can see it's blocked by a new fence and gate just past the rear access to Tesco. At the other end there's another gate (on the old exit slip) - and as this is one-way it suggests the road between is still complete. Not sure what it would be used for though. The old entry slip looks to have been planted over.

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Re: Newest abandoned roads?

Post by Unbreakify » Wed Dec 08, 2021 16:52

jnty wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 15:39
How about this old bit of link road to the M90, severed by a project which finished in 2019. I'm not sure what it does now or what fractions of it have been truly abandoned vs destroyed/repurposed as the Google imagery isn't up to date yet.
Google earth pro, which can be found here: https://www.google.com/earth/download/g ... ml?hl=en-G has a photo system where you can see not-yet released satelite imagery. Its good for old roads. And yes, it does look abandoned.

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Re: Newest abandoned roads?

Post by Hdeng16 » Thu Dec 09, 2021 09:53

Unbreakify wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 16:52
jnty wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 15:39
How about this old bit of link road to the M90, severed by a project which finished in 2019. I'm not sure what it does now or what fractions of it have been truly abandoned vs destroyed/repurposed as the Google imagery isn't up to date yet.
Google earth pro, which can be found here: https://www.google.com/earth/download/g ... ml?hl=en-G has a photo system where you can see not-yet released satelite imagery. Its good for old roads. And yes, it does look abandoned.
It's not unreleased as such - Maps uses the best/clearest relatively recent coverage, whereas the slightly aging Google Earth desktop application just shows everything via the Historical Imagery feature. Despite the name, Google Earth Pro is free to use for this purpose.

The road is abandoned in part, but a cul-de-sac remains from the roundabout and a sensible exit from the football stadium too.

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Re: Newest abandoned roads?

Post by zapalniczka » Thu Dec 09, 2021 10:16

KeithW wrote:
Tue Dec 07, 2021 11:24
JoshBostock01 wrote:
Tue Dec 07, 2021 10:39
Although not strictly abandoned, the old Forth Road Bridge immediately came to my mind. It only closed in 2017. The carriageway that used to link it to Scotstoun is also still there and appears to be maintained, most likely in case it is needed in an emergency.

https://www.google.com/maps/@55.9799694 ... 92!5m1!1e1
It may be used used by public transport, light motorcycles and bicycles.
https://www.google.com/maps/@55.9841475 ... 92!5m1!1e1

https://www.google.com/maps/@55.9787344 ... 00!5m1!1e1

https://www.google.com/maps/@55.9782417 ... 92!5m1!1e1
Does 'up to 125cc' include electric motorcycles I wonder?

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Re: Newest abandoned roads?

Post by Rillington » Thu Dec 09, 2021 15:00

KeithW wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 16:09
Rillington wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 15:15


I'd have thought that quite a few stretches of the A74 would count.

Also, the sections of the A1 which were abandoned when the a1M was created, such as alongside the A1246 at Fairburn and immediately to the north.
Alongside the A74(M) much of the old A74 is the B7076
farther north the old road is now B7078

The old A1 north of Ferrybridge is the A1246 to just west of Selby Fork were it becomes the A63 up to Milford. It is not abandoned but it has been reduced to S2 between Brotherton and the A63

South of Ferrybridge to Darrington the old A1 its now the A162

To list all the bypassed sections of A1 you would need to write a book but Wolfie Cooper has already done that :)
The A1 Then and Now
Thank you for the heads-up re the book - might be worth buying?

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Re: Newest abandoned roads?

Post by trickstat » Thu Dec 09, 2021 15:20

Rillington wrote:
Thu Dec 09, 2021 15:00
KeithW wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 16:09
Rillington wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 15:15


I'd have thought that quite a few stretches of the A74 would count.

Also, the sections of the A1 which were abandoned when the a1M was created, such as alongside the A1246 at Fairburn and immediately to the north.
Alongside the A74(M) much of the old A74 is the B7076
farther north the old road is now B7078

The old A1 north of Ferrybridge is the A1246 to just west of Selby Fork were it becomes the A63 up to Milford. It is not abandoned but it has been reduced to S2 between Brotherton and the A63

South of Ferrybridge to Darrington the old A1 its now the A162

To list all the bypassed sections of A1 you would need to write a book but Wolfie Cooper has already done that :)
The A1 Then and Now
Thank you for the heads-up re the book - might be worth buying?
It has an average rating of 4.8 out of 5 on Amazon.

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Re: Newest abandoned roads?

Post by jnty » Thu Dec 09, 2021 16:56

SteelCamel wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 16:34
jnty wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 15:39
How about this old bit of link road to the M90, severed by a project which finished in 2019. I'm not sure what it does now or what fractions of it have been truly abandoned vs destroyed/repurposed as the Google imagery isn't up to date yet.
It does look like it still exists. Although you can't go along that road in streetview, if you zoom in you can see it's blocked by a new fence and gate just past the rear access to Tesco. At the other end there's another gate (on the old exit slip) - and as this is one-way it suggests the road between is still complete. Not sure what it would be used for though. The old entry slip looks to have been planted over.
Good detective work - although looking at OpenStreetMap, while the road to the slip road might reuse sections of the old road, it actually connects the stadium car park.

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