Stonehenge - The bored tunnel option

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I think maybe the stones are overrated. Been past a only a handful of times ( dont use that bit of the A303 much) and almost missed them each time!! The arent as impressive or stand out as much as people who have never seen them think.

Wouldnt pay the admission price to see them close up either!
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When I was a kid you could clamber all over them.
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hoagy_ytfc wrote: Mon Aug 17, 2020 17:49 When I was a kid you could clamber all over them.
Ditto. Happy days, then visiting the "post-nuclear fall-out bunker" which passed for a visitor centre and bog in those happy far-off days.
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Richardf wrote: Mon Aug 17, 2020 17:11 I think maybe the stones are overrated. Been past a only a handful of times ( dont use that bit of the A303 much) and almost missed them each time!! The arent as impressive or stand out as much as people who have never seen them think.

Wouldnt pay the admission price to see them close up either!
They look much more impressive close up.
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jackal wrote: Tue Aug 18, 2020 07:35 They look much more impressive close up.
Especially when you realise how much effort must have been spent on them. Moving and siting stones that large is no minor matter today but doing it without anything more complex than a lever, stone tools and the odd copper axe is very impressive.
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hoagy_ytfc wrote: Mon Aug 17, 2020 17:49 When I was a kid you could clamber all over them.
You still can, and get in for free, if you go for the Solstice.

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jackal wrote: Tue Aug 18, 2020 07:35
Richardf wrote: Mon Aug 17, 2020 17:11 I think maybe the stones are overrated. Been past a only a handful of times ( dont use that bit of the A303 much) and almost missed them each time!! The arent as impressive or stand out as much as people who have never seen them think.

Wouldnt pay the admission price to see them close up either!
They look much more impressive close up.
I'm sure they do. Maybe one day.
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KeithW wrote: Tue Aug 18, 2020 08:27
jackal wrote: Tue Aug 18, 2020 07:35 They look much more impressive close up.
Especially when you realise how much effort must have been spent on them. Moving and siting stones that large is no minor matter today but doing it without anything more complex than a lever, stone tools and the odd copper axe is very impressive.


Yes it is a great engineering achievement.
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Richardf wrote: Tue Aug 18, 2020 17:12
KeithW wrote: Tue Aug 18, 2020 08:27
jackal wrote: Tue Aug 18, 2020 07:35 They look much more impressive close up.
Especially when you realise how much effort must have been spent on them. Moving and siting stones that large is no minor matter today but doing it without anything more complex than a lever, stone tools and the odd copper axe is very impressive.


Yes it is a great engineering achievement.
... Including re-erecting a lot of them about 1900(that's AD, for the elimination of doubt).
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mikehindsonevans wrote: Thu Aug 20, 2020 03:45
Richardf wrote: Tue Aug 18, 2020 17:12
KeithW wrote: Tue Aug 18, 2020 08:27

Especially when you realise how much effort must have been spent on them. Moving and siting stones that large is no minor matter today but doing it without anything more complex than a lever, stone tools and the odd copper axe is very impressive.


Yes it is a great engineering achievement.
... Including re-erecting a lot of them about 1900(that's AD, for the elimination of doubt).
And in the 50s and 60s. Can still see the concrete.
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Another short consultation has just been announced:
planninginspectorate.gov.uk/projects/so ... tonehenge/
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Jim606 wrote: Thu Aug 20, 2020 20:25 Another short consultation has just been announced:
planninginspectorate.gov.uk/projects/so ... tonehenge/
Link doesn't work for me.
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Big L wrote: Thu Aug 20, 2020 21:15
Jim606 wrote: Thu Aug 20, 2020 20:25 Another short consultation has just been announced:
planninginspectorate.gov.uk/projects/so ... tonehenge/
Link doesn't work for me.
Try this one
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solocle wrote: Thu Aug 20, 2020 21:17
Big L wrote: Thu Aug 20, 2020 21:15
Jim606 wrote: Thu Aug 20, 2020 20:25 Another short consultation has just been announced:
planninginspectorate.gov.uk/projects/so ... tonehenge/
Link doesn't work for me.
Try this one
Replacement link works fine, thanks for posting.
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https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/seve ... -j3gd0qkqt

From the linked article: "Highways England will renew its commitment to a tunnel under Stonehenge, pending the outcome of a review by Grant Shapps, the transport secretary, which is due to end in November."
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solocle wrote: Thu Aug 20, 2020 21:17 Try this one
Am I alone in chuckling at the long (standard) email disclaimer in Pinsent Masons's emails, which includes
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Interesting the HE announced this yesterday that Wessex Archaeology Limited has won a £35 million contract for archaeological protection and excavation work for the scheme

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Would they award such a contract if they did not think they will get consent
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Why a £35 million contract? I thought archaeological digs were the preserve of volunteers groups. How many previous digs have been under a contract?

It does seem like the approval is decided or, these contracts are a huge bureaucratic mess.

'8 miles of free-flowing, high-quality dual carriageway

a twin-bore tunnel two miles long underneath the World Heritage Site, closely following the existing A303 route, avoiding important archaeological sites, and avoiding intrusion on the view of the setting sun from the stones during the winter solstice

a new bypass to the north of the village of Winterbourne Stoke, with a viaduct over the River Till valley

new junctions with the A345 and A360 either side of the World Heritage Site'


Was a Countess GSJ always a part of this job? Good anyway.
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Half a century ago £35m would have paid for the road scheme, not just an archaeological dig.
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Truvelo wrote:Half a century ago £35m would have paid for the road scheme, not just an archaeological dig.
Well there is a LOT of archaeology to be done here.
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