A90/A96 Haudagain Roundabout - and the solution is...
Moderator: Site Management Team
- novaecosse
- Member
- Posts: 4722
- Joined: Tue Nov 21, 2006 23:35
- Location: Dundee, Scotland
A90/A96 Haudagain Roundabout - and the solution is...
leave it alone and build a link road!
Local rag on the case... Cheapest road for Aberdeen blackspot
Option 5 is being put forward to NESTRANS as the preferred option.
This will form a short dual carriageway link between the A90 and A96, bypassing the actual roundabout.
So rather than tackle the actual problem, they want to build around it
I was hoping for Option 11
The sooner that Aberdeen bypass is built the better!
Local rag on the case... Cheapest road for Aberdeen blackspot
Option 5 is being put forward to NESTRANS as the preferred option.
This will form a short dual carriageway link between the A90 and A96, bypassing the actual roundabout.
So rather than tackle the actual problem, they want to build around it
I was hoping for Option 11
The sooner that Aberdeen bypass is built the better!
Re: A90/A96 Haudagain Roundabout - and the solution is...
They're going to have to knock a few things down to fit that in aren't they?novaecosse wrote:leave it alone and build a link road!
Local rag on the case... Cheapest road for Aberdeen blackspot
Option 5 is being put forward to NESTRANS as the preferred option.
This will form a short dual carriageway link between the A90 and A96, bypassing the actual roundabout.
So rather than tackle the actual problem, they want to build around it
I was hoping for Option 11
The sooner that Aberdeen bypass is built the better!
The junctions between the link road and the A90/A96 are to be signal controlled, surely this could lead to the roundabut itself becoming gridlocked at peak times, defeating the point of the excercise somewhat..?
When is the Aberdeen bypass due to open?
Surely this is only going to be a short term solution until the bypass is built? Is the demolition required really worth it?
This isn't the first time an improvement has been made only to be obsoleted a few years later. Bage Way in Shrewsbury was built in the late 80's as an Eastern Bypass for the A49 only to be replaced less than 5 years later by the outer bypass.
This isn't the first time an improvement has been made only to be obsoleted a few years later. Bage Way in Shrewsbury was built in the late 80's as an Eastern Bypass for the A49 only to be replaced less than 5 years later by the outer bypass.
How would you like your grade separations, Sir?
Big and complex.
Big and complex.
Thanks. That really helped.Andy J wrote:A8000_Bob wrote: When is the Aberdeen bypass due to open?
What is the timescale for the Haudagain Roundabout improvments? A couple of years to completion maybe? I can't remember exactly, but the bypass is due to open sometime in 2013/2014. As Truvelo says, is it really worth the expense simply for a couple of years of real benefit?
- novaecosse
- Member
- Posts: 4722
- Joined: Tue Nov 21, 2006 23:35
- Location: Dundee, Scotland
They are looking to do an urban regeneration project... so the idea is to move out the undesirables, level the place and build some overpriced new houses.
They'd have been just as well turning Haudagain Roundabout into a signalised junction.
They'll need to get their finger out though...
NESTRANS are expecting Transport Scotland to pick up the tab as a Trunk Road Project.
So it'll need to be done before the bypass finishes and the A90/A96 gets detrunked.
They'd have been just as well turning Haudagain Roundabout into a signalised junction.
They'll need to get their finger out though...
NESTRANS are expecting Transport Scotland to pick up the tab as a Trunk Road Project.
So it'll need to be done before the bypass finishes and the A90/A96 gets detrunked.
- flyingscot
- Member
- Posts: 3837
- Joined: Tue Oct 25, 2005 17:24
- Location: Paisley
- novaecosse
- Member
- Posts: 4722
- Joined: Tue Nov 21, 2006 23:35
- Location: Dundee, Scotland
They built a few retail units... still empty apart from a Pizza Hut delivery!flyingscot wrote:Sure the Aberdeen By-pass will take a good number of vehicles off that road, thus allowing the cheaper solution to be more viable?
Did Porcelanosa ever build in the site of the old car garage- there was an application about 2 years ago for it!
and a wine warehouse(i forget its name)novaecosse wrote:They built a few retail units... still empty apart from a Pizza Hut delivery!flyingscot wrote:Sure the Aberdeen By-pass will take a good number of vehicles off that road, thus allowing the cheaper solution to be more viable?
Did Porcelanosa ever build in the site of the old car garage- there was an application about 2 years ago for it!
- novaecosse
- Member
- Posts: 4722
- Joined: Tue Nov 21, 2006 23:35
- Location: Dundee, Scotland
Majestic... aye that tooWeirdKerr wrote:and a wine warehouse(i forget its name)novaecosse wrote:They built a few retail units... still empty apart from a Pizza Hut delivery!flyingscot wrote:Sure the Aberdeen By-pass will take a good number of vehicles off that road, thus allowing the cheaper solution to be more viable?
Did Porcelanosa ever build in the site of the old car garage- there was an application about 2 years ago for it!
- novaecosse
- Member
- Posts: 4722
- Joined: Tue Nov 21, 2006 23:35
- Location: Dundee, Scotland
They are saying 3 years. Though NESTRANS are now saying that additional work to turn the current option into Option 11 could be done at a later date, but that could be 15 years away!A8000_Bob wrote:What is the timescale for the Haudagain Roundabout improvments? A couple of years to completion maybe? I can't remember exactly, but the bypass is due to open sometime in 2013/2014. As Truvelo says, is it really worth the expense simply for a couple of years of real benefit?
Presumably ACC will need the 15years to save up enough money, considering they are skint
- flyingscot
- Member
- Posts: 3837
- Joined: Tue Oct 25, 2005 17:24
- Location: Paisley
And are run by 15 year olds too IIRC.novaecosse wrote:They are saying 3 years. Though NESTRANS are now saying that additional work to turn the current option into Option 11 could be done at a later date, but that could be 15 years away!A8000_Bob wrote:What is the timescale for the Haudagain Roundabout improvments? A couple of years to completion maybe? I can't remember exactly, but the bypass is due to open sometime in 2013/2014. As Truvelo says, is it really worth the expense simply for a couple of years of real benefit?
Presumably ACC will need the 15years to save up enough money, considering they are skint
To come second is to be the first of the losers.
- novaecosse
- Member
- Posts: 4722
- Joined: Tue Nov 21, 2006 23:35
- Location: Dundee, Scotland
He's 20 now... his birthday was yesterdayflyingscot wrote:And are run by 15 year olds too IIRC.
For those who don't know Cllr John West is Aberdeen's Deputy Provost, voted in at the tender age of 18.
He's been setting an example though... paying back his expenses... at that age I'd have been the money up the wall!
And he'll probably get an Aberdeen Roundabout named after him...
- flyingscot
- Member
- Posts: 3837
- Joined: Tue Oct 25, 2005 17:24
- Location: Paisley
TBH he's smart. I'd love to be a councillor, sounds like a easy job if the money is good.novaecosse wrote:He's 20 now... his birthday was yesterdayflyingscot wrote:And are run by 15 year olds too IIRC.
For those who don't know Cllr John West is Aberdeen's Deputy Provost, voted in at the tender age of 18.
He's been setting an example though... paying back his expenses... at that age I'd have been the money up the wall!
And he'll probably get an Aberdeen Roundabout named after him...
Would we care if they were not there....
To come second is to be the first of the losers.
- flyingscot
- Member
- Posts: 3837
- Joined: Tue Oct 25, 2005 17:24
- Location: Paisley
- novaecosse
- Member
- Posts: 4722
- Joined: Tue Nov 21, 2006 23:35
- Location: Dundee, Scotland
M77 is a DBFO. It's Connect's responsiblity to operate the M77 for the concession period, so they can subcontract out the maintenance should they so wish.flyingscot wrote:On a vaguely related subject, have some of the contracts changed on the trunk roads these days?
Noticed Amey is now maintaining the M77 with a freshly patched sign what happened to Connect?
It's not unusual for the Trunk Road term maintenance contractors to tender for other DBFO maintenance contracts
Re: A90/A96 Haudagain Roundabout - and the solution is...
The details of the preferred option for the Haudagain roundabout have been published (same as originally announced in 2008). Exhibition panels, etc, can be found on Transport Scotland's site. Not due to start until the AWPR is open in 2018 though.
Owen Rudge
http://www.owenrudge.net/
http://www.owenrudge.net/
Re: A90/A96 Haudagain Roundabout - and the solution is...
I failed to find this thread when I posted this, but the plans weren't online then.
Re: A90/A96 Haudagain Roundabout - and the solution is...
Ah yes, I thought I'd seen something recently on here, but couldn't immediately find it.
Owen Rudge
http://www.owenrudge.net/
http://www.owenrudge.net/