On the M60 north of Manchester, somebody has used spray paint to erase the distance to Liverpool!Robert Kilcoyne wrote:This route confirmation sign on the northbound M6 north of Junction 15 shows no mileage for Stoke-on-Trent:-
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@52.98164 ... 6656?hl=en
Moreover, as Stoke-on-Trent is no longer signed as an exit destination from the northbound M6 at Junction 16 it should not really be on the RCS at all.
Botched Roadsigns
Moderator: Site Management Team
Re: Botched Roadsigns
Re: Botched Roadsigns
Whoever approved this mess of signs in Milton Keynes needs smacking round the head with a hardback large print copy of TSRGD. Letting the Woburn Abbey brown sign obscure the large sign behind was a grievous error. I count 8 roadsigns in 150 yards, each obscuring the ones behind when seen from a car at 40mph. For someone who doesn't know the area, this is utterly confusing.
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@52.03351 ... 6656?hl=en
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@52.03351 ... 6656?hl=en
- Johnathan404
- Member
- Posts: 11478
- Joined: Tue Feb 01, 2005 16:54
Re: Botched Roadsigns
Wow! I don't mind the botched inclusion of the symbols on the first sign, or the missing arms, but it's pointing in a direction which the subsequent signs say doesn't exist.Big Nick wrote:Whoever approved this mess of signs in Milton Keynes needs smacking round the head with a hardback large print copy of TSRGD. Letting the Woburn Abbey brown sign obscure the large sign behind was a grievous error. I count 8 roadsigns in 150 yards, each obscuring the ones behind when seen from a car at 40mph. For someone who doesn't know the area, this is utterly confusing.
I have websites about: motorway services | Fareham
Re: Botched Roadsigns
Is this a botched road sign, or not legal or just a nasty arrangement.
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.60342 ... 312!8i6656
I have a hatred of pedestrians prohibited and end combinations. They seem to be cropping up more and more around here. Who do they think it is for? If it's for traffic to be told that they might now expect pedestrians, surely the pedestrian crossing and footway is a bit of a giveaway. Especially with this sign 85 yards ahead of it https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.60285 ... 312!8i6656
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.60342 ... 312!8i6656
I have a hatred of pedestrians prohibited and end combinations. They seem to be cropping up more and more around here. Who do they think it is for? If it's for traffic to be told that they might now expect pedestrians, surely the pedestrian crossing and footway is a bit of a giveaway. Especially with this sign 85 yards ahead of it https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.60285 ... 312!8i6656
- Chris Bertram
- Member
- Posts: 15772
- Joined: Tue Nov 13, 2001 12:30
- Location: Birmingham, England
Re: Botched Roadsigns
A better option for an end of restriction for pedestrians would surely be a sign with grey border and cancel stripes, like the end of lorry restriction sign.
But bear in mind that the audience for the sign is not the traffic or pedestrians being banned - they shouldn't even be in a place to see the sign. It's more to inform other road users that they may now expect to see lorries or pedestrians or whatever.
But bear in mind that the audience for the sign is not the traffic or pedestrians being banned - they shouldn't even be in a place to see the sign. It's more to inform other road users that they may now expect to see lorries or pedestrians or whatever.
“The quality of any advice anybody has to offer has to be judged against the quality of life they actually lead.” - Douglas Adams.
Did you know there's more to SABRE than just the Forums?
Add your roads knowledge to the SABRE Wiki today!
Have you browsed SABRE Maps recently? Try getting involved!
Did you know there's more to SABRE than just the Forums?
Add your roads knowledge to the SABRE Wiki today!
Have you browsed SABRE Maps recently? Try getting involved!
Re: Botched Roadsigns
Just sitting at the computer I had to look twice to register that there was an "end" plate applying to both restrictions.Chris Bertram wrote:A better option for an end of restriction for pedestrians would surely be a sign with grey border and cancel stripes, like the end of lorry restriction sign.
But bear in mind that the audience for the sign is not the traffic or pedestrians being banned - they shouldn't even be in a place to see the sign. It's more to inform other road users that they may now expect to see lorries or pedestrians or whatever.
Re: Botched Roadsigns
You aren't actually required to sign the end of a No Pedestrians restriction as it is intended only pedestrians will need to observe the sign. To a driver, the presence of a crossing should be adequate guidance that there will now be pedestrians in the road.
Bryn
Terminally cynical, unimpressed, and nearly Middle Age already.
She said life was like a motorway; dull, grey, and long.
Blog - https://showmeasign.online/
X - https://twitter.com/ShowMeASignBryn
YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@BrynBuck
Terminally cynical, unimpressed, and nearly Middle Age already.
She said life was like a motorway; dull, grey, and long.
Blog - https://showmeasign.online/
X - https://twitter.com/ShowMeASignBryn
YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@BrynBuck
Re: Botched Roadsigns
It won't be there next time the streetview map goes past
Just around the corner there's some incorrect "bus lane ahead" signs. I know there's no lead in for a taper, but they should have put 959s up rather than 958s.
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.60374 ... 56!5m1!1e1
Are these illegal (ie can my husband drive across to wait in the bus layby while I pop in to get a kebab from my favourite kebab shop across the road ) or is it just the solid line that forms the legislation
Just around the corner there's some incorrect "bus lane ahead" signs. I know there's no lead in for a taper, but they should have put 959s up rather than 958s.
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.60374 ... 56!5m1!1e1
Are these illegal (ie can my husband drive across to wait in the bus layby while I pop in to get a kebab from my favourite kebab shop across the road ) or is it just the solid line that forms the legislation
Re: Botched Roadsigns
justacey wrote:Is this a botched road sign, or not legal or just a nasty arrangement.
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.60342 ... 312!8i6656
I have a hatred of pedestrians prohibited and end combinations. They seem to be cropping up more and more around here. Who do they think it is for? If it's for traffic to be told that they might now expect pedestrians, surely the pedestrian crossing and footway is a bit of a giveaway. Especially with this sign 85 yards ahead of it https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.60285 ... 312!8i6656
And while we're at it, the Welsh text on the right-hand lane is wrong: should say FFYRDD ERAILL.
Re: Botched Roadsigns
This atrocity in Aberystwyth.
No road number (for a 'Route Confirmation Sign', it does nothing to confirm the route that thr driver is on!) and why are the distances in yellow?"I see the face of a child. He lives in a great city. He is black. Or he is white. He is Mexican, Italian, Polish. None of that matters. What matters, he's an American child"
- Richard Nixon
- Richard Nixon
Re: Botched Roadsigns
Thank you, good spot. I shall get that sortedViator wrote:
And while we're at it, the Welsh text on the right-hand lane is wrong: should say FFYRDD ERAILL.
Re: Botched Roadsigns
Aaargh my eyes https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.65265 ... 56!5m1!1e1
Firstly the A470 is a trunk road.
Secondly do you really need to be told it goes north and south? Really?
Firstly the A470 is a trunk road.
Secondly do you really need to be told it goes north and south? Really?
Re: Botched Roadsigns
Just in case there's any confusion over how the UK measures speed, the sign on the right reminds you.
Re: Botched Roadsigns
Seems excessive but I don't know the area. Was there a time when you would have turned in different directions at that point?justacey wrote:Aaargh my eyes https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.65265 ... 56!5m1!1e1
Firstly the A470 is a trunk road.
Secondly do you really need to be told it goes north and south? Really?
Re: Botched Roadsigns
The A470 was built about 50 years ago and I've looked at plans of the bridge from 1981, so no, it's not new.Piatkow wrote: Seems excessive but I don't know the area. Was there a time when you would have turned in different directions at that point?
There was a perfectly aceptable set of signs there before they temporarily took them down to repair the bridge.
Re: Botched Roadsigns
GSV shows the old sign didn't show the A470 as a primary route either.
This was of course the terminus of the original A470 expressway, the rest of the route over the Aberfan tip not being built until the 1990s, but that doesn't explain the sign logic.
This was of course the terminus of the original A470 expressway, the rest of the route over the Aberfan tip not being built until the 1990s, but that doesn't explain the sign logic.
Bryn
Terminally cynical, unimpressed, and nearly Middle Age already.
She said life was like a motorway; dull, grey, and long.
Blog - https://showmeasign.online/
X - https://twitter.com/ShowMeASignBryn
YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@BrynBuck
Terminally cynical, unimpressed, and nearly Middle Age already.
She said life was like a motorway; dull, grey, and long.
Blog - https://showmeasign.online/
X - https://twitter.com/ShowMeASignBryn
YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@BrynBuck
Re: Botched Roadsigns
More double roundabout fun in Rugeley. It has a friend further on with the same problem; you can just see it in the distance.
Rugeley, or RUGLY as the road markings say in Cannock. Along with W'TON, STAFD and LICHD. Did we have a thread about these recently?
Rugeley, or RUGLY as the road markings say in Cannock. Along with W'TON, STAFD and LICHD. Did we have a thread about these recently?
Make poetry history.
Did you know there's more to SABRE than just the Forums?
Help with maps using the new online calibrator.
Add your roads knowledge to the SABRE Wiki.
Did you know there's more to SABRE than just the Forums?
Help with maps using the new online calibrator.
Add your roads knowledge to the SABRE Wiki.
Re: Botched Roadsigns
They had a model motorway, complete with model Glasgow gantry.
Did you know there's more to SABRE than just the Forums?
Add your roads knowledge to the SABRE Wiki today!
Have you browsed SABRE Maps recently? Try getting involved!
Add your roads knowledge to the SABRE Wiki today!
Have you browsed SABRE Maps recently? Try getting involved!
Re: Botched Roadsigns
Gah! Why can't they follow the model standards set out in model TSRGD?exiled wrote:At the Model Railway Show at the SECC and thought of Chris5156.
They had a model motorway, complete with model Glasgow gantry.
Chris
Roads.org.uk
Roads.org.uk
Re: Botched Roadsigns
The sheer size of the "A14" on this sign must be seen to be believed:
https://goo.gl/maps/WBs8m1G5YqN2
https://goo.gl/maps/WBs8m1G5YqN2