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Robert Kilcoyne wrote:This route confirmation sign on the northbound M6 north of Junction 15 shows no mileage for Stoke-on-Trent:-

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@52.98164 ... 6656?hl=en

Moreover, as Stoke-on-Trent is no longer signed as an exit destination from the northbound M6 at Junction 16 it should not really be on the RCS at all.
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Whoever approved this mess of signs in Milton Keynes needs smacking round the head with a hardback large print copy of TSRGD. Letting the Woburn Abbey brown sign obscure the large sign behind was a grievous error. I count 8 roadsigns in 150 yards, each obscuring the ones behind when seen from a car at 40mph. For someone who doesn't know the area, this is utterly confusing.

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@52.03351 ... 6656?hl=en
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Big Nick wrote:Whoever approved this mess of signs in Milton Keynes needs smacking round the head with a hardback large print copy of TSRGD. Letting the Woburn Abbey brown sign obscure the large sign behind was a grievous error. I count 8 roadsigns in 150 yards, each obscuring the ones behind when seen from a car at 40mph. For someone who doesn't know the area, this is utterly confusing.
Wow! I don't mind the botched inclusion of the symbols on the first sign, or the missing arms, but it's pointing in a direction which the subsequent signs say doesn't exist.
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Is this a botched road sign, or not legal or just a nasty arrangement.

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.60342 ... 312!8i6656

I have a hatred of pedestrians prohibited and end combinations. They seem to be cropping up more and more around here. Who do they think it is for? If it's for traffic to be told that they might now expect pedestrians, surely the pedestrian crossing and footway is a bit of a giveaway. Especially with this sign 85 yards ahead of it :D https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.60285 ... 312!8i6656
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A better option for an end of restriction for pedestrians would surely be a sign with grey border and cancel stripes, like the end of lorry restriction sign.

But bear in mind that the audience for the sign is not the traffic or pedestrians being banned - they shouldn't even be in a place to see the sign. It's more to inform other road users that they may now expect to see lorries or pedestrians or whatever.
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Chris Bertram wrote:A better option for an end of restriction for pedestrians would surely be a sign with grey border and cancel stripes, like the end of lorry restriction sign.

But bear in mind that the audience for the sign is not the traffic or pedestrians being banned - they shouldn't even be in a place to see the sign. It's more to inform other road users that they may now expect to see lorries or pedestrians or whatever.
Just sitting at the computer I had to look twice to register that there was an "end" plate applying to both restrictions.
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You aren't actually required to sign the end of a No Pedestrians restriction as it is intended only pedestrians will need to observe the sign. To a driver, the presence of a crossing should be adequate guidance that there will now be pedestrians in the road.
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It won't be there next time the streetview map goes past :laugh:

Just around the corner there's some incorrect "bus lane ahead" signs. I know there's no lead in for a taper, but they should have put 959s up rather than 958s.
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.60374 ... 56!5m1!1e1

Are these illegal (ie can my husband drive across to wait in the bus layby while I pop in to get a kebab from my favourite kebab shop across the road :lol: :mrgreen: ) or is it just the solid line that forms the legislation
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justacey wrote:Is this a botched road sign, or not legal or just a nasty arrangement.

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.60342 ... 312!8i6656

I have a hatred of pedestrians prohibited and end combinations. They seem to be cropping up more and more around here. Who do they think it is for? If it's for traffic to be told that they might now expect pedestrians, surely the pedestrian crossing and footway is a bit of a giveaway. Especially with this sign 85 yards ahead of it :D https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.60285 ... 312!8i6656

And while we're at it, the Welsh text on the right-hand lane is wrong: should say FFYRDD ERAILL.
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This atrocity in Aberystwyth.
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No road number (for a 'Route Confirmation Sign', it does nothing to confirm the route that thr driver is on!) and why are the distances in yellow?
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Viator wrote:
And while we're at it, the Welsh text on the right-hand lane is wrong: should say FFYRDD ERAILL.
Thank you, good spot. I shall get that sorted :D
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Aaargh my eyes :shock: https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.65265 ... 56!5m1!1e1

Firstly the A470 is a trunk road.
Secondly do you really need to be told it goes north and south? Really?
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Just in case there's any confusion over how the UK measures speed, the sign on the right reminds you.
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justacey wrote:Aaargh my eyes :shock: https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.65265 ... 56!5m1!1e1

Firstly the A470 is a trunk road.
Secondly do you really need to be told it goes north and south? Really?
Seems excessive but I don't know the area. Was there a time when you would have turned in different directions at that point?
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Piatkow wrote: Seems excessive but I don't know the area. Was there a time when you would have turned in different directions at that point?
The A470 was built about 50 years ago and I've looked at plans of the bridge from 1981, so no, it's not new.
There was a perfectly aceptable set of signs there before they temporarily took them down to repair the bridge.
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GSV shows the old sign didn't show the A470 as a primary route either.

This was of course the terminus of the original A470 expressway, the rest of the route over the Aberfan tip not being built until the 1990s, but that doesn't explain the sign logic.
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More double roundabout fun in Rugeley. It has a friend further on with the same problem; you can just see it in the distance.

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exiled wrote:At the Model Railway Show at the SECC and thought of Chris5156.

They had a model motorway, complete with model Glasgow gantry.
Gah! Why can't they follow the model standards set out in model TSRGD? :roll:
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The sheer size of the "A14" on this sign must be seen to be believed:

https://goo.gl/maps/WBs8m1G5YqN2
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