Botched Roadsigns

[exiled]

At the Model Railway Show at the SECC and thought of Chris5156.

They had a model motorway, complete with model Glasgow gantry.

Gah! Why can't they follow the model standards set out in model TSRGD?

I knew you'd like it!

[Burns]

Warning! There are no kites here.

[drm567]

The sheer size of the "A14" on this sign must be seen to be believed:

https://goo.gl/maps/WBs8m1G5YqN2

What's with the green cones on the left? Interesting if you go to the image one click back the reds and greens have swapped. What's going on?
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.97892 ... 6656?hl=en

[Arcuarius]

The sheer size of the "A14" on this sign must be seen to be believed:

https://goo.gl/maps/WBs8m1G5YqN2

What's with the green cones on the left? Interesting if you go to the image one click back the reds and greens have swapped. What's going on?
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.97892 ... 6656?hl=en

There is a good reason for the "A14" sign. Something to do with (mostly foreign) HGVs not expecting to have to turn right at a roundabout.

As for the colours, that's just where the Streetview camera has failed.

[Osthagen]

The sheer size of the "A14" on this sign must be seen to be believed:

https://goo.gl/maps/WBs8m1G5YqN2

I’m sure I’ve seen A66 signed in a similar manner.

[Conekicker]

It's very common to see offside ones incorrect, but this is the first time I've seen a nearside one wrong. Particularly odd as the 300 and 200 are correct.

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@55.00868 ... 6656?hl=en

[Bryn666]

The famous "man sweeping the M1" photo has the 100 countdown marker the wrong way around too... how hard can it be?

[Patrick Harper]

There is a good reason for the "A14" sign. Something to do with (mostly foreign) HGVs not expecting to have to turn right at a roundabout.

It's not the correct use for a flag sign though.
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Hertfordshire's signs are a colossal mess in general but this one is worthy of a mention because it is only a year old and represents a wasted opportunity to fix an old one that had collapsed by the end of its life. In this case, the road ahead is a spur of the A10 and therefore the destinations should be inset in a green panel with A10 not in brackets, aligned to the left-side of the left-hand arrow (or centred on the straight arrow, if there's space). Also, North Hoddesdon is not a destination no matter how you cut it, this sign is already in Hoddesdon so it's redundant. The A1170 north of here should really be a B or C-road as it has no strategic importance whatsoever. I have been tasked with designing new signs for the A1170/Essex Road roundabout (for the New River Bridge) and you can be certain nothing will be done halves here.

Closer to home there is this sign, also very new, for Hemel's various districts. The old one was also a map sign but blue-bordered and with mileages on the destinations. These mileages could have been kept if the designer had opted for a stack type sign, but they didn't, which is a shame.

[ACBest]

Only a small botch admittedly, but the distances on this sign coming off the A52 at Whatton in the Vale are the wrong way around... Whatton is 1/4 of a mile (if that!), and Aslockton 1/2 a mile away.

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@52.94302 ... 312!8i6656

However... I noticed when driving past the other day that they've been corrected (can only have been in the last week or two, I drive past every day on the local bus route!) with a very unofficial looking vinyl application!

[Glen]

It's not the correct use for a flag sign though.

It's often used to mean continue round the roundabout to a further exit.
It has it's uses, like where the continuation of a number or the bulk of the traffic has to make a right turn, just to reinforce the message.

But it is used for no good reason on many of the roundabouts on the A75 at Dumfries. Wholly unnecessary.

[Robert Kilcoyne]

The larger flag sign does not look particularly old, but it refers to a road which you would only find within the city of Glasgow since 1999:-

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@55.07868 ... 6656?hl=en

[Glen]

It must be older than the other ones which have (M74) on them.

[lefthandedspanner]

The larger flag sign does not look particularly old, but it refers to a road which you would only find within the city of Glasgow since 1999:-

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@55.07868 ... 6656?hl=en

It's not the only one, either - on the approach to Gretna Green it's mentioned twice on one sign.

[GC_A690]

Sabristi Against Street Names On Flag Signs

To get to Skinnerburn Road, turn onto, um, Skinnerburn Road. Also, a superfluous 'avoiding low bridge' - if a low bridge is preventing you from getting to Skinnerburn Road, you're going the long way round seeing as this is the turning onto Skinnerburn Road...

[Chris56000]

Hi!

It's not the only one, either - on the approach to Gretna Green it's mentioned twice on one sign.

The design is not bodged, simply dates from before construction of the A74(M) began - if I remember correctly the Gretna Green/Gretna bypass section of the A74(M) upgrade from A74 was the first one to begin construction, shown as a d/c under construction with one side blue and the other side green in the A-Z Road Atlas of the time!

That design was perfectly acceptable for a pre A74(M) and pre-Guildford sign, but it is botched if it is known to have been erected post Guildford, in which case it's a botched copy without a proper audit done first!

Chris Williams

[Owain]

The start of the A2 appears to be signed in brackets, but as far as I've ever been able to tell, it is the start of the A2.

[Big L]

Looks wrong.

[crb11]

Hertfordshire's signs are a colossal mess in general but this one is worthy of a mention because it is only a year old and represents a wasted opportunity to fix an old one that had collapsed by the end of its life. In this case, the road ahead is a spur of the A10 and therefore the destinations should be inset in a green panel with A10 not in brackets, aligned to the left-side of the left-hand arrow (or centred on the straight arrow, if there's space).

I don't know what the official rules are, but I would prefer to retain the brackets in this case, because otherwise it says that the road going forward is simultaneously the A10 Cambridge-bound (which I want) and the A10 London-bound (which I don't want), which just feels wrong.

I'd however fix the sign in a way you haven't suggested, which would be to group the northbound destinations together, so list in the order "London, Cambridge, Ware, Hertford" (or with London at the end). I know Cambridge is the centre of the universe, but it doesn't need to be first on every road sign!

[Patrick Harper]

...because otherwise it says that the road going forward is simultaneously the A10 Cambridge-bound (which I want) and the A10 London-bound

That's exactly what the road is.

[crb11]

...because otherwise it says that the road going forward is simultaneously the A10 Cambridge-bound (which I want) and the A10 London-bound

That's exactly what the road is.

Yes from an official classification point of view. From a "user's" point of a view, roads go from point A to point B and so if you're on it you expect to be either heading away from A and towards B, or away from B and towards A.