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Re: Lincoln Eastern Bypass: "Get on with it!"

Post by 2 Sheds » Thu Jan 03, 2019 17:59

ravenbluemoon wrote:
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Still not convinced it'll make much difference to my journey times if I'm honest. Riseholme Roundabout is terrible in all directions during peak times, there's regularly 10 minutes of queues heading south onto it from the A15 due to the A46 dropping from D2 to S2 there. With an increase in traffic from the Eastern bypass its only going to get worse...
I'm not sure what exactly they'll be doing, but I was involved in some surveying works on that roundabout and the one to the east about about 18 months ago. It was just on the roundabouts and approaches, so it won't be dualling. I suspect extra lanes and stacking space.
The A15 /A46 Riseholme roundabout has been crying out for improvement to the approaches. The westbound entry on the A46 is marked as 2 entry lanes, but is such inadequate width for today's vehicles that most drivers treat it as a single lane. For years now there have been all day tailbacks on this approach from the east. Minimal expenditure could make a significant improvement to the junction capacity. There is a new large housing development adjacent to this roundabout. I don't know why they couldn't have got some S106 from the developer to improve the roundabout.

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Re: Lincoln Eastern Bypass: "Get on with it!"

Post by Berk » Thu Jan 03, 2019 18:13

Maybe this is it??

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Re: Lincoln Eastern Bypass: "Get on with it!"

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Re: Lincoln Eastern Bypass: "Get on with it!"

Post by jervi » Sat Aug 17, 2019 17:26

Well, When I was on it at 3pm Yesterday, and while traffic was going around it, it couldn't have traffic going around it (you couldn't make a full circle or turn off). At the moment it is just simply a bit of dual carriageway that looks like a roundabout.

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Re: Lincoln Eastern Bypass: "Get on with it!"

Post by Berk » Sat Aug 17, 2019 17:30

Imagine a bulge in the road, where the crossings and arms of the roundabout would be. Is that it?? So I’m guessing it won’t be finished properly until after a bit more of the road’s finished.

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Re: Lincoln Eastern Bypass: "Get on with it!"

Post by jervi » Sat Aug 17, 2019 20:48

Berk wrote:
Sat Aug 17, 2019 17:30
Imagine a bulge in the road, where the crossings and arms of the roundabout would be. Is that it?? So I’m guessing it won’t be finished properly until after a bit more of the road’s finished.
I've updated it on OSM, it's a bit of a botched job, but that is how it will remain until the other roundabouts and carriageway are complete.
In terms of when the other arms will be open, the western one may open first, Sleaford Road Roundabout is due open in December, which would connect the B1188 to the current A15.
The eastern arm will open at the end of the project as Washingborough Roundabout is the last part to be completed in May of next year. But saying all that, this roundabout wasn't meant to be completed until October.

Video of using new roundabout Northbound
https://youtu.be/u5z4iOTw2hg
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Re: Lincoln Eastern Bypass: "Get on with it!"

Post by jervi » Sat Sep 14, 2019 21:43

I put in a FOI request about the changes of road numbers due to the bypass and what traffic would be signed through the city rather than around (such as A57 - A15 (S)).
The local council did a very good job at producing the information, if you would like to have a look -> https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/ ... ng-1431337

Changes to road numbers (proposed):
The already built northern bypass between the A15 and the A15 will become the A15... instead of one section being the A46 and the other being the A158.
The old A15 route will become the A1434 north of the current end of the A1434, and will become the A607 south of that. This will mean that part of the old A15 south of the current junction with the A607 will become a spur of the A607. Interestingly signs for the A1434 have started to appear along the A15 in the centre of Lincoln over the past few years. Such as this one from 2017! https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.22517 ... 312!8i6656
New B road! Greetwell road, between the B1308 and the new roundabout on the bypass will become the B1533. Although, it looks like the road will need some realignments at somepoint.

In response for which way they are wanting to take traffic (such as that awkward route from the A15 to the A57), they are just putting "Other Main Routes" and directed around the bypass. Although, it would almost always be quicker through the centre (and alot shorter)

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Re: Lincoln Eastern Bypass: "Get on with it!"

Post by Berk » Sat Sep 14, 2019 21:47

Yes, that’s maybe the one route through the centre that’s quicker.

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Re: Lincoln Eastern Bypass: "Get on with it!"

Post by jervi » Tue Oct 29, 2019 23:11

Second roundabout of the bypass is open to traffic.
https://www.lincolnshire.gov.uk/news/se ... 25.article
It's the southern A15 tie-in roundabout on Sleaford Road. The old A15 to the north will become a spur of the A607 when the rest of the scheme is complete. Also its where the southern relief road will connect into once that gets the go ahead.

Also the new viaduct has it's beams in place. https://www.lincolnshire.gov.uk/news/br ... 26.article

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Re: Lincoln Eastern Bypass: "Get on with it!"

Post by jervi » Thu Apr 02, 2020 13:55

Just a litl update if anyone was wondering on the A15 Lincoln Bypass, and the A15 works at Sleaford too.
LCC A15 LEB Update
In Lincolnshire, the only two road projects continuing through Covid-19 is the A15 Lincoln bypass and the A52 Grantham Southern Relief road. All other works, including works on the A46 Lincoln Bypass Junctions are being suspended by the end of this week.
As was previously mentioned in this thread, there are works at Sleaford (maybe they warrant their own thread?) that were due to start next week, they have now been postponed. These works were for the A17/ A153 GSJ. Followed by works at Holdingham Roundabout about 3/4 months afterwards, supposedly both junctions would of finish works by the end of the year.
6 Weeks ago LCC responded to a FOI I put in for plans regarding both of these junctions. The feasibility studies are provided for both junctions. Showing the other potential works that could of taken place, including a hamburger at Holdingham (either A17->A17) or (A15(S)->A17(E)), as well mentioning GSJ or moving the A15 Sleaford bypass to a new junction further west along the A17. Initially I believed that a GSJ at Holdingham would of been the best option, but after reading the documents, I now support the proposed works that will be taking place, except mcdonalds access should be made into a LILO (give it a couple of years and it will be)

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Re: Lincoln Eastern Bypass: "Get on with it!"

Post by TheKeymeister » Thu Apr 02, 2020 15:23

jervi wrote:
Thu Apr 02, 2020 13:55
Just a litl update if anyone was wondering on the A15 Lincoln Bypass, and the A15 works at Sleaford too.
LCC A15 LEB Update
In Lincolnshire, the only two road projects continuing through Covid-19 is the A15 Lincoln bypass and the A52 Grantham Southern Relief road. All other works, including works on the A46 Lincoln Bypass Junctions are being suspended by the end of this week.
As was previously mentioned in this thread, there are works at Sleaford (maybe they warrant their own thread?) that were due to start next week, they have now been postponed. These works were for the A17/ A153 GSJ. Followed by works at Holdingham Roundabout about 3/4 months afterwards, supposedly both junctions would of finish works by the end of the year.
6 Weeks ago LCC responded to a FOI I put in for plans regarding both of these junctions. The feasibility studies are provided for both junctions. Showing the other potential works that could of taken place, including a hamburger at Holdingham (either A17->A17) or (A15(S)->A17(E)), as well mentioning GSJ or moving the A15 Sleaford bypass to a new junction further west along the A17. Initially I believed that a GSJ at Holdingham would of been the best option, but after reading the documents, I now support the proposed works that will be taking place, except mcdonalds access should be made into a LILO (give it a couple of years and it will be)
I understand postponing the works that haven't started yet, and obviously if it's not safe to carry on then the other stuff should stop, but I can't help thinking this is an absolutely ideal time to just do what they want at Riseholme without causing any fuss!

Those feasibility studies are interesting. Personally I prefer Hamburger option 1 (A17-A17) as I believe it would be a more long term solution, I think all the options should have been coupled with a touch of widening to the A17 west of Holdingham though, as far as the DVSA checkpoint would be ideal. We will probably never see it dualled, but more queuing/merging space would help.

As for the A17/A153, it looks like we've just ended up with the cheapest option yet again. The online roundabout would have been my favourite I think.

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Re: Lincoln Eastern Bypass: "Get on with it!"

Post by jervi » Fri Apr 03, 2020 08:36

TheKeymeister wrote:
Thu Apr 02, 2020 15:23

I understand postponing the works that haven't started yet, and obviously if it's not safe to carry on then the other stuff should stop, but I can't help thinking this is an absolutely ideal time to just do what they want at Riseholme without causing any fuss!

Those feasibility studies are interesting. Personally I prefer Hamburger option 1 (A17-A17) as I believe it would be a more long term solution, I think all the options should have been coupled with a touch of widening to the A17 west of Holdingham though, as far as the DVSA checkpoint would be ideal. We will probably never see it dualled, but more queuing/merging space would help.

As for the A17/A153, it looks like we've just ended up with the cheapest option yet again. The online roundabout would have been my favourite I think.
If I was them, I'd stop most of the A15 works, but keep working going on the roundabouts & bridge since that would allow the roundabouts to be reopened on the B1190 & Greetwell Road. But all other work to stop. And then with the A52 @ Grantham, I'd kept work going on the A1 junction, but suspend or postpone any work that doesn't directly affect the A1. And as you said, keep the A46 works at Lincoln going as they have minimal impact with the reduced traffic at the moment.

Holdingham is a difficult one since a large proportion of traffic doesn't stay on the same route that they arrived on, which makes a hamburger or GSJ not as effective. It is also made worse by having 5 arms. I'd agree heavily that all approaches to the roundabout need to be widened a lot, especially now since 3 or 4 arms will have lights, so a couple 100 metres of dualing on the A17 (W) would not go a miss.

For the A17/A153, there were cheaper options (including doing nothing), but while a roundabout would of been good, the lights allow better pedestrian (and other NMU) access, which is useful here since the proximity of the Rugby/Sports ground, and for cyclists in general.

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