Forth Replacement Crossing

[rileyrob]

I think you could argue that the signage on the ground suggests that the M876 and M9 run along together, with lane one in each direction being the M876 and lanes 2 and 3 the M9. Therefore, the M876 either has a Junction 8 and 7 between 2 and 3 or two un-numbered junctions.

[A9NWIL]

I think you could argue that the signage on the ground suggests that the M876 and M9 run along together, with lane one in each direction being the M876 and lanes 2 and 3 the M9. Therefore, the M876 either has a Junction 8 and 7 between 2 and 3 or two un-numbered junctions.

I would agree with the idea that lane 1 of that section is the M876 and lanes 2 and 3 are the M9, thats how I have read it when I have driven that section.

[Berk]

Wasn't there a plan floated last year to lift the restriction on learners on motorways? Its a ridiculous, outdated and arbitrary ban anyway.

There was - but I don't think its made much headway so far, mainly because HM Government have rather a lot of other more pressing demands on legislative time at the moment.

It's promised for 2018.

Can it be made by an SI?? It’s much quicker to introduce changes by secondary legislation than an (all new) RTA (Amendment) Act.

[Potholes ate my car]

Re south queensferry, theres talk of opening up the bus slip from Echline onto the A90 to all vehicles as the poor darlings aren’t travelling to the new junction south of the bridge to go into edinburgh

I think most of the talk has come from the local LibDem councillors and has very little chance of coming to fruition.

[IAN]

Now on Google Street View but northbound only and not south of 1a

Ian (M5 Driver)

[Nwallace]

Crossed in the Motorhome on Sunday night with a stiff breeze coming downstream; pretty impressed with the wind shielding, didn't need to counter steer at all even after making landfall on the Fife side as the shielding protects you until you're round the curve and sheltered.

[Halmyre]

Crossed in the Motorhome on Sunday night with a stiff breeze coming downstream; pretty impressed with the wind shielding, didn't need to counter steer at all even after making landfall on the Fife side as the shielding protects you until you're round the curve and sheltered.

I've occasionally felt a twitch as I pass the base of a tower, I suppose it's not inconceivable that there might be a bit of eddying there.

[Nwallace]

I didn't notice anything untoward but I was on the upstream carriageway with a westerly blowing out to sea.
This in a vehicle which if you're not prepared will be blown significantly off course whenever anything passes it in either direction. Always a pain when someone who's been hiding in your blind spot finally decides to overtake when you're not looking in the mirrors.

[c2R]

A selection of Statutory Instruments published relating to the approach roads and the old crossing for your enjoyment


* http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ssi/2018/119 - The A90/A9000 Trunk Road (Forth Road Bridge) (Prohibitions on Use and Stopping) Order 2018
* http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ssi/2018/120 - The A90 Trunk Road (Forth Road Bridge and Queensferry Crossing Approach Roads) (Prohibitions on Use and Stopping and Bus Lane) Order 2018
* http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ssi/2018/121 - The A90/A9000 Trunk Roads (Forth Road Bridge, and Queensferry Crossing and Forth Road Bridge Approach Roads) (Speed Limits) Order 2018

[orudge]

Speaking of the old bridge, apparently around 100 vehicles a day are illegally using the old bridge. I'd have thought it would have camera enforcement or something along those lines.

[RichardB]

How about a crackdown on Lib-Dem MSPs who don't know the difference between "flaunt" and "flout"?

[Chris Bertram]

How about a crackdown on Lib-Dem MSPs who don't know the difference between "flaunt" and "flout"?

I don't think that confusion is restricted to MSPs of any political colour.

[novaecosse]

Speaking of the old bridge, apparently around 100 vehicles a day are illegally using the old bridge. I'd have thought it would have camera enforcement or something along those lines.

Rising Bollards would be better

Better still, install a barrier... they could charge £5 to cross the bridge and issue a souvenir ticket.

[A9NWIL]

Speaking of the old bridge, apparently around 100 vehicles a day are illegally using the old bridge. I'd have thought it would have camera enforcement or something along those lines.

Im sure its been suggested before in this thread, months ago, that having a scheme whereby certain registered vehicles can join if they are living within a certain distance of the bridge.
I guess they could charge an annual fee of say £20 per year so that north and south Queensferry residents could use the bridge, perhaps up to say 10km away from the old bridge each side.
The old bridge could easily be marked as 1 lane bus lane and 1 lane local private traffic.
The bridge could be enforced by ANPR, meaning those that arent included on the list of allowed numberplates would get a fine. All buses would be registered by default of course and taxis could register, for a larger fee than residents, if within 50km of the bridge, seeing as they are a form of public transport.

[ScottB5411]

Speaking of the old bridge, apparently around 100 vehicles a day are illegally using the old bridge. I'd have thought it would have camera enforcement or something along those lines.

Im sure its been suggested before in this thread, months ago, that having a scheme whereby certain registered vehicles can join if they are living within a certain distance of the bridge.
I guess they could charge an annual fee of say £20 per year so that north and south Queensferry residents could use the bridge, perhaps up to say 10km away from the old bridge each side.
The old bridge could easily be marked as 1 lane bus lane and 1 lane local private traffic.
The bridge could be enforced by ANPR, meaning those that arent included on the list of allowed numberplates would get a fine. All buses would be registered by default of course and taxis could register, for a larger fee than residents, if within 50km of the bridge, seeing as they are a form of public transport.

Excellent idea

[Halmyre]

Speaking of the old bridge, apparently around 100 vehicles a day are illegally using the old bridge. I'd have thought it would have camera enforcement or something along those lines.

Im sure its been suggested before in this thread, months ago, that having a scheme whereby certain registered vehicles can join if they are living within a certain distance of the bridge.
I guess they could charge an annual fee of say £20 per year so that north and south Queensferry residents could use the bridge, perhaps up to say 10km away from the old bridge each side.
The old bridge could easily be marked as 1 lane bus lane and 1 lane local private traffic.
The bridge could be enforced by ANPR, meaning those that arent included on the list of allowed numberplates would get a fine. All buses would be registered by default of course and taxis could register, for a larger fee than residents, if within 50km of the bridge, seeing as they are a form of public transport.

With a discount for single-occupancy vehicles as they're putting less stress on the bridge.

[cb a1]

... and taxis could register, for a larger fee than residents, if within 50km of the bridge, seeing as they are a form of public transport.

Wouldn't expect the taxi companies to be happy with that seeing as they can currently use the bridge for free.

[A9NWIL]

... and taxis could register, for a larger fee than residents, if within 50km of the bridge, seeing as they are a form of public transport.

Wouldn't expect the taxi companies to be happy with that seeing as they can currently use the bridge for free.

Oh OK didnt realise I guess that comes as part of their licence?

[novaecosse]

Is the limit up to 70mph over the bridge yet and if not why not?

It's not. There are still works going on at the north end. It also looks as if they're installing ramp metering traffic lights on the North Queensferry junction.

So, after a bit of digging, it appears we are going to be deviating from current practice, in that the Ramp Metering signals will not have the yellow Backing Boards that are prescribed in England.

[Burns]

The bridge looks like its regressing every time I go over. I'm guessing that the snagging works will be ongoing for some time?