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Paul7755 wrote: Tue Apr 02, 2019 11:02 Up to date drone footage:
https://youtu.be/4xtT-wPCdOI
So traffic is now using the new through route - excellent! Presumably still subject to a reduced speed limit.

What's that going to be when open? Looks like it should be 50 from the layout?
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Paul7755 wrote: Mon Apr 01, 2019 21:08 Open today, Evening Chronic article has a video. Still ranting on about it being a triple decker roundabout... :(

https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/no ... d-16058021
"It's the first triple-decker roundabout in the north" according to Tynemouth MP Sir Alan Campbell. I can think of four just on the M62.

That said, I believe it's the first full access interchange with two freeflowing mainlines to have opened in England since the Chieveley improvement in 2004. There are at least a couple more hot on its heels with the Black Cat and M2 J5 schemes, which is as good a sign as any of the increased ambition in recent years.
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jackal wrote: Tue Apr 02, 2019 15:25
Paul7755 wrote: Mon Apr 01, 2019 21:08 Open today, Evening Chronic article has a video. Still ranting on about it being a triple decker roundabout... :(

https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/no ... d-16058021
"It's the first triple-decker roundabout in the north" according to Tynemouth MP Sir Alan Campbell. I can think of four just on the M62.

That said, I believe it's the first full access interchange with two freeflowing mainlines to have opened in England since the Chieveley improvement in 2004.
Admittedly it's not usual to have such a junction outside of the motorway network.
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Mark Hewitt wrote: Tue Apr 02, 2019 15:26
jackal wrote: Tue Apr 02, 2019 15:25
Paul7755 wrote: Mon Apr 01, 2019 21:08 Open today, Evening Chronic article has a video. Still ranting on about it being a triple decker roundabout... :(

https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/no ... d-16058021
"It's the first triple-decker roundabout in the north" according to Tynemouth MP Sir Alan Campbell. I can think of four just on the M62.

That said, I believe it's the first full access interchange with two freeflowing mainlines to have opened in England since the Chieveley improvement in 2004.
Admittedly it's not usual to have such a junction outside of the motorway network.
A45/A46/A444 Festival Island, Coventry. But yes, they are rare.
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Chris Bertram wrote: Tue Apr 02, 2019 15:35
Mark Hewitt wrote: Tue Apr 02, 2019 15:26
jackal wrote: Tue Apr 02, 2019 15:25
"It's the first triple-decker roundabout in the north" according to Tynemouth MP Sir Alan Campbell. I can think of four just on the M62.

That said, I believe it's the first full access interchange with two freeflowing mainlines to have opened in England since the Chieveley improvement in 2004.
Admittedly it's not usual to have such a junction outside of the motorway network.
A45/A46/A444 Festival Island, Coventry. But yes, they are rare.
The A38/A50 Toyota Island southwest of Derby?
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Robert Kilcoyne wrote: Tue Apr 02, 2019 15:53
Chris Bertram wrote: Tue Apr 02, 2019 15:35
Mark Hewitt wrote: Tue Apr 02, 2019 15:26 Admittedly it's not usual to have such a junction outside of the motorway network.
A45/A46/A444 Festival Island, Coventry. But yes, they are rare.
The A38/A50 Toyota Island southwest of Derby?
That too. And A19/A66 is completely freeflow, before KeithW points it out!
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Chris Bertram wrote: Tue Apr 02, 2019 16:01
Robert Kilcoyne wrote: Tue Apr 02, 2019 15:53
Chris Bertram wrote: Tue Apr 02, 2019 15:35 A45/A46/A444 Festival Island, Coventry. But yes, they are rare.
The A38/A50 Toyota Island southwest of Derby?
That too. And A19/A66 is completely freeflow, before KeithW points it out!
As is the Redditch cloverleaf.
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owen b wrote: Tue Apr 02, 2019 20:43
Chris Bertram wrote: Tue Apr 02, 2019 16:01
Robert Kilcoyne wrote: Tue Apr 02, 2019 15:53
The A38/A50 Toyota Island southwest of Derby?
That too. And A19/A66 is completely freeflow, before KeithW points it out!
As is the Redditch cloverleaf.
Aha! Gabalfa junction A48/A470 is a three-level stacked roundabout as well, with A469 intruding in a non-free flow capacity.
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Mark Hewitt wrote: Tue Apr 02, 2019 11:06
Paul7755 wrote: Tue Apr 02, 2019 11:02 Up to date drone footage:
https://youtu.be/4xtT-wPCdOI
So traffic is now using the new through route - excellent! Presumably still subject to a reduced speed limit.

What's that going to be when open? Looks like it should be 50 from the layout?
They'll probably put it back to 50 as that's what it was before the roadworks.
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Chris Bertram wrote: Tue Apr 02, 2019 21:21
owen b wrote: Tue Apr 02, 2019 20:43
Chris Bertram wrote: Tue Apr 02, 2019 16:01 That too. And A19/A66 is completely freeflow, before KeithW points it out!
As is the Redditch cloverleaf.
Aha! Gabalfa junction A48/A470 is a three-level stacked roundabout as well, with A469 intruding in a non-free flow capacity.
I can think of at least two more in England, A41/A406 is one. I think jackal made a full list some time ago.
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jackal wrote: Tue Apr 02, 2019 15:25"It's the first triple-decker roundabout in the north" according to Tynemouth MP Sir Alan Campbell. I can think of four just on the M62.
Yebbut according to the good burghers of Tyne & Wear, Yorkshire doesn't count as "the north" :D
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owen b wrote: Tue Apr 02, 2019 22:21
Chris Bertram wrote: Tue Apr 02, 2019 21:21
owen b wrote: Tue Apr 02, 2019 20:43
As is the Redditch cloverleaf.
Aha! Gabalfa junction A48/A470 is a three-level stacked roundabout as well, with A469 intruding in a non-free flow capacity.
I can think of at least two more in England, A41/A406 is one. I think jackal made a full list some time ago.
Quite a while ago! viewtopic.php?f=1&t=19410
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Stevie D wrote: Tue Apr 02, 2019 22:39
jackal wrote: Tue Apr 02, 2019 15:25"It's the first triple-decker roundabout in the north" according to Tynemouth MP Sir Alan Campbell. I can think of four just on the M62.
Yebbut according to the good burghers of Tyne & Wear, Yorkshire doesn't count as "the north" :D
Too right, it is midlands from Tees onwards :)
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I don't think there are any such junctions in Scotland away from the motorway network on three different levels, unless we were to significantly loosen the criteria. But certainly no pairs of non motorway D2s being spanned by a roundabout to allow access between them.
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Euan wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2019 08:56 I don't think there are any such junctions in Scotland away from the motorway network on three different levels, unless we were to significantly loosen the criteria. But certainly no pairs of non motorway D2s being spanned by a roundabout to allow access between them.
Regarding the specific combination of a roundabout and three levels, that's right.

But there is the surviving cloverleaf in Livingston, which is full access freeflow. An honourable mention for this beauty, which is a couple of movements away from full access: https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@55.873355,-4.3280863,17z

There's also at least one three level interchange off the motorway network: https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@55.925235,-4.4453435,17z
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Used the Silverlink Roundabout twice today. It's still 30 mph with speed cameras and lane closures on the A1058, but using the A19 from the Howdon roundabout to the A1056, it's a vast improvement on the old and congested roundabout and the traffic was flowing freely, considering the A19 was busy with holiday traffic.
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Went through at the weekend (long time open I know!). But it's all 50mph now and looks really impressive.

This change coupled with ANPR at the Tyne Tunnel making that that bit easier, means this route is now going to be our main way to get to the likes of Tynemouth, but also anything along the A189 e.g. up the Northumberland coast.
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Mark Hewitt wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2019 11:18 Went through at the weekend (long time open I know!). But it's all 50mph now and looks really impressive.

This change coupled with ANPR at the Tyne Tunnel making that that bit easier, means this route is now going to be our main way to get to the likes of Tynemouth, but also anything along the A189 e.g. up the Northumberland coast.
Glad you liked it as this is an impressive looking junction. Also to the east, the Norham Rd junction and Billy Mill junction( ex roundabout) are a big improvement on before.
To those of us of a certain age, the Silverlink Roundabout also had the unofficial name of the Europa Lodge Roundabout, as this was the name of the motel in the seventies. Also the old junction makes an appearance in the Likely Lads film, as Terry Collier lives in a block of flats overlooking it.
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Speaking to my parents (still North Tyneside residents) it looks like the A1058 50mph limit from the Churchill St junction to east of the Norham road junction (where the 40mph limit starts) comes in soon. This leaves only the 2-3 miles from Churchill St to the ECML bridge as a derestricted section. The permanent 50mph signs are up, presumably for when the temporary 30mph roadworks limit ends.

Turns out that the consultation was in 2016 and the announcement in 2017 https://my.northtyneside.gov.uk/sites/d ... 20Road.pdf
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Mark Hewitt wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2019 11:18 Went through at the weekend (long time open I know!). But it's all 50mph now and looks really impressive.

This change coupled with ANPR at the Tyne Tunnel making that that bit easier, means this route is now going to be our main way to get to the likes of Tynemouth, but also anything along the A189 e.g. up the Northumberland coast.
It's amazing how different that section of the A19 is from a decade ago. The ANPR instead of the toll booths will be the icing on the cake. :)
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