wrinkly wrote:I don't remember seeing any sign where the road number comes above the destinations, as in your first example (except on pre-Worboys signs). Is your example real? Can you point it out on Streetview?
I don't know about that particular one but here are a few of them:
wrinkly wrote:I don't remember seeing any sign where the road number comes above the destinations, as in your first example (except on pre-Worboys signs). Is your example real? Can you point it out on Streetview?
In addition to the examples that Jonathan has posted, I can now answer my own question. I happened to go along the M62 today where it's being converted to managed status between J25 and J30. Wherever there's a "one lane column" new sign (which I think happens at the last sign before each exit, unlike the advance sign posted by Bryn) the road number is above the destinations.
Looking at those links again, I would say it is standard whenever there isn't enough space to put the number next to the destination to put it above it. I can't find an example of the number being above the destination where it isn't either one lane wide, or the whole sign is a bit untidy.
Thanks for the replies to my question. The original "number on top" example was westbound at M62 j24 but as has been noted they are now appearing all over the place on the managed motorway section.
As to the "why", I can just about see the symmetry argument where the road number is placed alongside the destination(s), but why does the number come on top on a "one lane column" gantry sign?
The eastbound signs for M62 j24 are standard "map" signs, and the number is on the bottom:
Huddersfield
Halifax
A629
This of course is consistent with other map signs, but inconsistent with the way the same information is presented when travelling in the other direction. Perhaps there is no explanation and it's just "one of those things" (that no doubt only a Sabristi would ever even notice!).
I now have to wonder where there are any gantry signs where, on the sign for an exit rather than the route ahead, the main or only destination comes above the main or only road number.
I have a feeling there used to be, but I haven't been able to find any current examples on Streetview.
Where there are subsidiary destinations and numbers, they are often in the order "destination before road number", which is why I've said "main" in the question.
wrinkly wrote:I now have to wonder where there are any gantry signs where, on the sign for an exit rather than the route ahead, the main or only destination comes above the main or only road number.
It's always baffled me why the M65 is signed from J29 s/b as traffic should be sent down the M61! And why is there no mention at all of the A6 till the sign on the slip road?
ScottB5411 wrote:It's always baffled me why the M65 is signed from J29 s/b as traffic should be sent down the M61! And why is there no mention at all of the A6 till the sign on the slip road?
What do you suggest then there? Blank signs or no signs at all? It is one of the main principles of any sophisticated signage system to sign every intersecting road regardless of whether a different route at another junction should have been taken. And it's not only people who missed the junction before that need these information. The M6 also provide a valuable redundancy in case of a blocked M61.
I agree Bryn, Infact Walton Summit should be signed too IMO. A simple M65 (E&W) would suffice for southbound traffic and morons who drive past the M61.
Isn't that almost how the M65 is signposted from Southbound? I forget!
If there was the desperation to signpost Southport in arguably a more logical place, then J28 is surely the place....thinking along the lines that Southport is signposted from Chorley.
