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jervi wrote: ↑Wed Oct 23, 2019 14:25
Went up the A1 yesterday. Attached are the new primary route signs if interested.
New A1 snip2.PNG
New A1 snip4.PNG
Not a junction number in sight.
And there was me imagining a matrix sign on the A1(M) s/b come Dec: 'A1307 permanently closed at Huntingdon. For A14 use junction 13'
Quick, someone order some junction nr patches. I'd go with J13A for Brampton Hut (top photo), whilst the start of motorway n/b (bottom photo) is part of junction 14.
Or perhaps 'For A14 follow signs' will have to do on my imaginary matrix message.
I wonder how much traffic will actually make that tight right (A1198 from Godmanchester to A14 W) rather than go via the new layout through Huntingdon?
Al__S wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 07:43
I wonder how much traffic will actually make that tight right (A1198 from Godmanchester to A14 W) rather than go via the new layout through Huntingdon?
If you live in Godmanchester or the new Romans Edge development, I suspect you very much would.
I don't think the roundabout geometery is too bad, I've driven round those on the A1198 hundreds of times and they're not that tiny - I suppose the rest of the road is just massive.
I also like the optimistic "look at the green fields" from the article...... tin sheds and housing estates here we come...
I don't find the geometry of the roundabouts too bad either. The thing I wonder about is the complexity of the Swavesey junction - getting off and back on again for a visit to Cambridge Services is quite an involved process.
I remember thinking "this is a faff" when I went there a few months ago - I approached from the east and went back in that direction after my visit. I assumed at the time that the convoluted routing was a temporary by-product of the works, and the final result would be more streamlined, but it appears not. Unless I'm missing something!
Would have been nice if they could have simplified things a bit but I'm guessing this wasn't possible given the need to thread things around existing sites/buildings and satisfy all of the other requirements.
Still, it's only a minor grumble in the context of getting a super-duper shiny new A14 after living locally for twenty years waiting for it to happen.
roadtester wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 08:25
The thing I wonder about is the complexity of the Swavesey junction - getting off and back on again for a visit to Cambridge Services is quite an involved process.
I think you certainly won't want to visit the services if you're travelling southbound, as you'll have three roundabouts and an additional 0.75km to negotiate on the way in and the way out of the services, as well as business park traffic and local traffic heading up the old A14 to Huntingdon on the LAR! I don't think northbound would be too bad, with the additional advance exit slip road for services access.
c2R wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 08:44
I think you certainly won't want to visit the services if you're travelling southbound, as you'll have three roundabouts and an additional 0.75km to negotiate on the way in and the way out of the services, as well as business park traffic and local traffic heading up the old A14 to Huntingdon on the LAR! I don't think northbound would be too bad, with the additional advance exit slip road for services access.
If I think back to the picture of the signs for the A1/A14 junction that were posted the other day, there was no mention of the Brampton Hut services. This will mean that the amount of custom that Brampton Services will receive from A14 westbound traffic is likely to decrease.
So I guess people travelling eastbound on the A14 will likely stop at Brampton Hut, whereas those travelling westbound will stop at Cambridge services in Swavesey - especially given the complexity described by c2R.
Not just the Bar Hill junction- it's the closure of two out of the three remaining sliproads at Dry Drayton. I'm guessing it won't be too long until the Bar Hill westbound off ramp opens and the Dry Drayton one is then closed- ending Junction 29.
The schematic seems to imply that the contraflow will be removed too. From the lay of the land I had thought it was looking like it would move so westbound had one lane either side of the new concrete carriageway divider with subsequent work being to lower the remaining “old” westbound carriageway to the same level as the new eastbound one.
I had a numpty moment near Buckden. I was driving south on the A1 (nearly M) and thought "why isn't that sign for the A14(M) blue?". Then I remembered.
M11(A14(M)) wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 16:40
I have just had an email from HE about the road numbering changes. The old A14 will be A1307, the section of A14 between the existing Junction 23 and Brampton Hut will become the A141, and the Alconbury spur will also be A1307 too, so A1307(M) anyone?
Presumably that extension of the A141 would go past Brampton Hut to the New Ellington junction to meet the A14, which would put the A141 out of zone?
M11(A14(M)) wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 16:40
I have just had an email from HE about the road numbering changes. The old A14 will be A1307, the section of A14 between the existing Junction 23 and Brampton Hut will become the A141, and the Alconbury spur will also be A1307 too, so A1307(M) anyone?
Presumably that extension of the A141 would go past Brampton Hut to the New Ellington junction to meet the A14, which would put the A141 out of zone?
Not necessarily; it's not clear if the New Ellington junction to Brampton Hut would be considered a spur of the A14 to meet the A1, or whether it would be the A141.
Burwellian wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2019 23:25Presumably that extension of the A141 would go past Brampton Hut to the New Ellington junction to meet the A14, which would put the A141 out of zone?
c2R provided a direct link to the part of the legislation which explains all the new classifications on the previous page of this thread.
The A141 will end at Brampton Hut. That existing section of road connecting it to the new alignment will become a spur of the A14.
