A14 Cambridge to Huntingdon "news"

[KeithW]

As I am sure you know, the A141 at Chatteris 'is' a by-pass/relief road from the orginal route.
The obvious place to plug in a new A141 would be Bridge St roundabout, but I think the land at the Green Welly cafe is being redeveloped.
Another possibilty would be to join the A141 and the A142 by routing a bypass south of the town, reducing the amount of traffic on the A141 through the ridiculous roundabout at the aborted Tesco's site.

I do indeed know that and it has as is all too common become an magnet for out of town shopping and light industrial sites accessing the road directly or at best with a roundabout. This is precisely why I would route the new bypass well to the west. Chatteris would not be the first place to have the bypass bypassed. Wetherby is on its third and Boroughbridge its second.

[B1040]

Probably not good geology for a new road west of Chatteris. Soft fen where the few roads that already exist get rather uneven and bumpy.

[M11(A14(M))]

Didn’t they encounter a similar problem with one of the motorways up north (M62 I think)?

[doebag]

Probably not good geology for a new road west of Chatteris. Soft fen where the few roads that already exist get rather uneven and bumpy.

I think in general the problem is with older roads that are ‘B’ or unclassified , where the base layers are either not designed for modern traffic or pretty much non existent.
More modern roads built to better standards don’t seem to suffer such extremes of damage or movement.

[Mettie]

Probably not good geology for a new road west of Chatteris. Soft fen where the few roads that already exist get rather uneven and bumpy.

I think in general the problem is with older roads that are ‘B’ or unclassified , where the base layers are either not designed for modern traffic or pretty much non existent.
More modern roads built to better standards don’t seem to suffer such extremes of damage or movement.

You haven't driven the A16 between Spalding and Peterborough recently then?

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[doebag]

Probably not good geology for a new road west of Chatteris. Soft fen where the few roads that already exist get rather uneven and bumpy.

I think in general the problem is with older roads that are ‘B’ or unclassified , where the base layers are either not designed for modern traffic or pretty much non existent.
More modern roads built to better standards don’t seem to suffer such extremes of damage or movement.

You haven't driven the A16 between Spalding and Peterborough recently then?

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Yesterday funnily enough. And yes it is poor for a new road. But it did not have large cracks in the tarmac you can lose your finger in like a lot of the B roads around here.
*edit for atrocious spelling.

[Mettie]

I think in general the problem is with older roads that are ‘B’ or unclassified , where the base layers are either not designed for modern traffic or pretty much non existent.
More modern roads built to better standards don’t seem to suffer such extremes of damage or movement.

You haven't driven the A16 between Spalding and Peterborough recently then?

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Yesterday funnily enough. And yes it is poor for a new road. But it did not have large cracks in the tarmac you can loose your finger in like a lot of the B roads around here.

No, most of those were patched before it was surface dressed! I’m sure it won’t be long before they reappear...


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[Big Nick]

Coming south to the M11 last night was odd. I'm obviously not used to the new road yet but it is confusing when you get to the M11/A1 road splits and the various lanes go everywhere. For a few minutes I was worried that I'd missed the lanes for the M11 and was either heading south down the A1 or going onto some unnamed local route. Route Confirmation Sign could be nice?

The speed limit there isn't too clear, lots of people slow down. Some worker had left a yellow "50 - Roadworks" sign out but there was nothing on the overhead gantries, no cones to be seen, plus the various cameras are signed as 'not in use' so after a while we all zoomed on at 70mph.
Scope for installing an NSL sign?

Roadworks on the newly finished road as we got to Cambridge did not impress me either.
But a few miles further south I saw how they clean the big signs - with a large roller brush on a JCB arm! Never seen that before

[Hdeng16]

Coming south to the M11 last night was odd. I'm obviously not used to the new road yet but it is confusing when you get to the M11/A1 road splits and the various lanes go everywhere. For a few minutes I was worried that I'd missed the lanes for the M11 and was either heading south down the A1 or going onto some unnamed local route. Route Confirmation Sign could

What?!

Sorry I tried to work out if it was a typo but I’m honestly not sure what junction you mean. There is no M11/A1 junction and I can’t work out from the description where you mean.

[Al__S]

Hopefully this will be fixed soon- but for now, at Bar Hill on both A14 entrances there are NSL signs after the Variable Speed Limit displays.

[Big Nick]

Coming south to the M11 last night was odd. I'm obviously not used to the new road yet but it is confusing when you get to the M11/A1 road splits and the various lanes go everywhere. For a few minutes I was worried that I'd missed the lanes for the M11 and was either heading south down the A1 or going onto some unnamed local route. Route Confirmation Sign could

What?!

Sorry I tried to work out if it was a typo but I’m honestly not sure what junction you mean. There is no M11/A1 junction and I can’t work out from the description where you mean.

Sorry, I mean where the A14 splits and takes you to the A1 North, A1 South or down the A14 to the M11. It goes into 3 different routes and not being familiar with the road can lead to uncertainty.
My main thought is that the very large overhead sign (at J20 or J21?) has a lot of info to absorb in the short time as you drive up to it.

It's a shame that Google Streetview hasn't yet been updated to show the new road so we could study the signage and layout in depth at our leisure.

[trickstat]

Coming south to the M11 last night was odd. I'm obviously not used to the new road yet but it is confusing when you get to the M11/A1 road splits and the various lanes go everywhere. For a few minutes I was worried that I'd missed the lanes for the M11 and was either heading south down the A1 or going onto some unnamed local route. Route Confirmation Sign could

What?!

Sorry I tried to work out if it was a typo but I’m honestly not sure what junction you mean. There is no M11/A1 junction and I can’t work out from the description where you mean.

Sorry, I mean where the A14 splits and takes you to the A1 North, A1 South or down the A14 to the M11. It goes into 3 different routes and not being familiar with the road can lead to uncertainty.
My main thought is that the very large overhead sign (at J20 or J21?) has a lot of info to absorb in the short time as you drive up to it.

It's a shame that Google Streetview hasn't yet been updated to show the new road so we could study the signage and layout in depth at our leisure.

If, a few minutes after that sign, you are driving on a viaduct over the Ouse and the East Coast Main Line you are still on the A14 and heading towards the M11.

Also, if you are on a D2 you are on the A1 South. If you are on a D3, the A14. If it's D4M you are on the A1(M) North.

I also don't think you can get from the A14 to the A1 without travelling on something that is clearly a sliproad?

[Bryn666]

This is why we used to have butterfly gantry signs which made it crystal clear which slip roads went where, but the "I don't want to maintain those" brigade got them shanked from the network.

[ManomayLR]

This is why we used to have butterfly gantry signs which made it crystal clear which slip roads went where, but the "I don't want to maintain those" brigade got them shanked from the network.

It would be cool to have a butterfly sign with MS4s sitting on top as well, one for each route.

[Fenlander]

You haven't driven the A16 between Spalding and Peterborough recently then?

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Yesterday funnily enough. And yes it is poor for a new road. But it did not have large cracks in the tarmac you can loose your finger in like a lot of the B roads around here.

No, most of those were patched before it was surface dressed! I’m sure it won’t be long before they reappear...


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There’s a pretty large rollercoaster at the Spalding end of the new bit heading towards Peterborough, can’t surface dress that and it almost feels like you get airborne.

[Mettie]

Yes, the rollercoaster has got worse in the past few months, looked a lot more obvious in the sunset on Friday as I went home. Several large potholes and a split on the PCC side between Newborough roundabout and the Carr Dyke bridge, that someone has thoughtfully marked on Waze, and a ‘lip’ starting to form either side of the bridge is making it an interesting drive in the twilight...


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[Big L]

I came through westbound yesterday afternoon. There was one gantry lit up with 60 limits, with national speed limit again on the next. It was busy but free flowing, with no obvious hazard that would cause such a thing.

Anyone care to place a bet on whether or not the gantry with 60 signs also had a speed camera attached?

[Al__S]

the cameras still have "camera not in use" signs, and there's a mix of fixed & temporary NSL signs right after the entry VSL displays on all on ramps at the moment

[B1040]

Another friend from Kent had his sat nav send him up the former A604 (M) rather than along the new road on his way from Scotland towards the M11.
The signage at the old split was very poor last time I passed.

[medgoode]

A14 Cambridge to Huntingdon roadworks items for auction
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-c ... e-54476554

Could be a good chance to grab some souvenirs! Can't seem to find the auction site though. Wouldn't mind a sign for the garden!

Update: Found the auction site!
https://www.ppauctions.com/auction/304/ ... ivery-team