A83 Rest And Be Thankful blocked again

The study of British and Irish roads - their construction, numbering, history, mapping, past and future official roads proposals and general roads musings.

There is a separate forum for Street Furniture (traffic lights, street lights, road signs etc).

Registered users get access to other forums including discussions about other forms of transport, driving, fantasy roads and wishlists, and roads quizzes.

Moderator: Site Management Team

Post Reply
User avatar
Ruperts Trooper
Member
Posts: 12031
Joined: Sun Jun 17, 2012 13:43
Location: Huntingdonshire originally, but now Staffordshire

A83 Rest And Be Thankful blocked again

Post by Ruperts Trooper »

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-g ... t-24378986

Yet again - but this time too far west for the diversion route to be any use.
Lifelong motorhead
User avatar
Halmyre
Member
Posts: 1997
Joined: Wed Oct 21, 2009 07:47
Location: Fifeshire

Re: A83 Rest And Be Thankful blocked again

Post by Halmyre »

Ruperts Trooper wrote:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-g ... t-24378986

Yet again - but this time too far west for the diversion route to be any use.
Mother Nature's sense of humour...
User avatar
rileyrob
Member
Posts: 3492
Joined: Sat May 23, 2009 09:18
Location: Lochaber

Re: A83 Rest And Be Thankful blocked again

Post by rileyrob »

Would I be right in thinking that the lower photo in the BBC report is not the A83, there are no lines on the verges on centre, and the road looks too narrow. I'm inclined to say that judging by what landscape is visible, it could be the 'new' old military road, but I've not heard of a lanslip onto it.
Rob.
My mission is to travel every road and visit every town, village and hamlet in the British Isles.
I don't like thinking about how badly I am doing.
User avatar
Haydn1971
Member
Posts: 12426
Joined: Sun Apr 10, 2005 14:16
Location: Sheffield
Contact:

Re: A83 Rest And Be Thankful blocked again

Post by Haydn1971 »

Given the drop of a hat creates a need for a tunnel over here in Madeira - I'm starting to think that it's about time something more resilient needs to be built across this route - not necessarily a tunnel like here, but a route that's not affected by land slips, with perhaps some form of structure at the western end to aid the passage past the B828 junction. I've seen numerous similar solutions in the Alps and Pyrenees, that could give a guide to a longer term solution.
Regards, Haydn

:: Visit My roads in Sheffield mini site
:: View my photostream on Flickr
User avatar
Truvelo
Member
Posts: 17468
Joined: Wed May 29, 2002 21:10
Location: Staffordshire
Contact:

Re: A83 Rest And Be Thankful blocked again

Post by Truvelo »

You mean something similar to a snow shed?
How would you like your grade separations, Sir?
Big and complex.
User avatar
Mark Hewitt
Member
Posts: 31412
Joined: Fri Dec 17, 2004 12:54
Location: Chester-le-Street

Re: A83 Rest And Be Thankful blocked again

Post by Mark Hewitt »

Haydn1971 wrote:Given the drop of a hat creates a need for a tunnel over here in Madeira - I'm starting to think that it's about time something more resilient needs to be built across this route - not necessarily a tunnel like here, but a route that's not affected by land slips, with perhaps some form of structure at the western end to aid the passage past the B828 junction. I've seen numerous similar solutions in the Alps and Pyrenees, that could give a guide to a longer term solution.
The tunnels in Madeira are nice aren't they. Make sure you get off the main routes and see some of the older tunnels, especially the ones with waterfalls right across the entrance ;)

e.g. This tunnel http://goo.gl/maps/djwV1 is bypassed by another longer tunnel!
User avatar
A8000Bob
Member
Posts: 3156
Joined: Sat Jan 29, 2005 20:02
Location: Kirkcaldy, Fife

Re: A83 Rest And Be Thankful blocked again

Post by A8000Bob »

The week after the Campbeltown ferry service ended for the winter. :roll:
User avatar
Haydn1971
Member
Posts: 12426
Joined: Sun Apr 10, 2005 14:16
Location: Sheffield
Contact:

Post by Haydn1971 »

OT I realise... Mark - I've done a complete circuit of the island over the last few days covering in no particular order the key VR1, VE1, VE2, VE3, VE4, E101, E109 & E110 routes... Haven't time to do the cross country routes to the north east of Funchal, but that gives me something to do next time. ;-)

The VE3 is being extended west and construction is now past Ponta Do Pargo (albeit halted through I'd guess lack of funding with just tunnels built), I'd hazard a guess at it eventually linking up with the VE2 in Porto Moniz after the economy picks up.

Some amazing tunnels, structures, extreme gradients - I've never had to drop to second gear on a motorway before to get up a hill !!! I'd recommend the place, stay in an apartment near Funchal, grab a hire car, preferably the larger engine size for the car size and go explore.

Next Sabre roadtrip anyone ?

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/10/03/qu5edy3y.jpg
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/10/03/ade9ypan.jpg
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/10/03/jyqe7ehu.jpg
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/10/03/dy5aqege.jpg
Regards, Haydn

:: Visit My roads in Sheffield mini site
:: View my photostream on Flickr
User avatar
wrinkly
Member
Posts: 8988
Joined: Tue Mar 04, 2008 12:17
Location: Leeds

Re: A83 Rest And Be Thankful blocked again

Post by wrinkly »

Mark Hewitt wrote:This tunnel http://goo.gl/maps/djwV1 is bypassed by another longer tunnel!
We might have the same in Wales one day if they ever drive the new Penmaenbach eastbound bore.
User avatar
Mark Hewitt
Member
Posts: 31412
Joined: Fri Dec 17, 2004 12:54
Location: Chester-le-Street

Re: A83 Rest And Be Thankful blocked again

Post by Mark Hewitt »

Agreed; part of the reason I went was that for anyone interested in road and road building, the place is completely amazing. Chock full of as much special road infrastructure as you'd find in the entire UK. Several miles of D2 tunnel to get to a tiny fishing village - check :).

On the other hand, now you know where all the EU money goes ;)
User avatar
Truvelo
Member
Posts: 17468
Joined: Wed May 29, 2002 21:10
Location: Staffordshire
Contact:

Re: A83 Rest And Be Thankful blocked again

Post by Truvelo »

Did someone mention a roadtrip? Maybe an idea for next year :scratchchin:
How would you like your grade separations, Sir?
Big and complex.
User avatar
J--M--B
Member
Posts: 14647
Joined: Sat Aug 30, 2003 17:34
Location: Lochaber, Scotland
Contact:

Re: A83 Rest And Be Thankful blocked again

Post by J--M--B »

A8000Bob wrote:The week after the Campbeltown ferry service ended for the winter. :roll:
And fortunately the A82 overnight closures do not start again until next week, presumably there is a plan to cancel in the event of any closure on the Rest and Be Thankful but you can never be sure with Traffic Scotland.
JMB
Fort William
http://www.mbriscoe.me.uk

"Give me the third best technology. The second best won't be ready in time. The best will never be ready." Robert Watson-Watt
User avatar
J--M--B
Member
Posts: 14647
Joined: Sat Aug 30, 2003 17:34
Location: Lochaber, Scotland
Contact:

Re: A83 Rest And Be Thankful blocked again

Post by J--M--B »

For Argyll has a report on a meeting of the A83 Marketing Group.

Transport Scotland in welcome new initiatives on A83
JMB
Fort William
http://www.mbriscoe.me.uk

"Give me the third best technology. The second best won't be ready in time. The best will never be ready." Robert Watson-Watt
User avatar
Bipolarbear
Member
Posts: 19
Joined: Sat Oct 06, 2012 16:22
Location: Perth

Re: A83 Rest And Be Thankful blocked again

Post by Bipolarbear »

rileyrob wrote:Would I be right in thinking that the lower photo in the BBC report is not the A83, there are no lines on the verges on centre, and the road looks too narrow. I'm inclined to say that judging by what landscape is visible, it could be the 'new' old military road, but I've not heard of a lanslip onto it.
You would be correct
User avatar
OLD GIT
Member
Posts: 2401
Joined: Sat Jan 07, 2012 21:41

Re: A83 Rest And Be Thankful blocked again

Post by OLD GIT »

J--M--B wrote:For Argyll has a report on a meeting of the A83 Marketing Group.

Transport Scotland in welcome new initiatives on A83
But given the referendum next year will there be any will to spend money from the public purse on Scottish roads.
User avatar
J--M--B
Member
Posts: 14647
Joined: Sat Aug 30, 2003 17:34
Location: Lochaber, Scotland
Contact:

Re: A83 Rest And Be Thankful blocked again

Post by J--M--B »

OLD GIT wrote:
J--M--B wrote:For Argyll has a report on a meeting of the A83 Marketing Group.

Transport Scotland in welcome new initiatives on A83
But given the referendum next year will there be any will to spend money from the public purse on Scottish roads.
Will there be any money?

They had a report a few days ago about this question in the Edinburgh Parliament.

'Scottish Government rules out study into impact study on trunk road closures in Highlands'
JMB
Fort William
http://www.mbriscoe.me.uk

"Give me the third best technology. The second best won't be ready in time. The best will never be ready." Robert Watson-Watt
User avatar
Ruperts Trooper
Member
Posts: 12031
Joined: Sun Jun 17, 2012 13:43
Location: Huntingdonshire originally, but now Staffordshire

Re: A83 Rest And Be Thankful blocked again

Post by Ruperts Trooper »

Blocked again - military road diversion not available.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-n ... d-26317438
Lifelong motorhead
Comstock
Banned
Posts: 4199
Joined: Tue Jun 05, 2007 15:57
Location: Derby

Re: A83 Rest And Be Thankful blocked again

Post by Comstock »

Has this old military road diversion actually been used yet?

On this film it doesn't look wide enough for 2 way traffic anyway...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-19964561
User avatar
Mark Hewitt
Member
Posts: 31412
Joined: Fri Dec 17, 2004 12:54
Location: Chester-le-Street

Re: A83 Rest And Be Thankful blocked again

Post by Mark Hewitt »

It's supposed to be one way convoy working I think.
Comstock
Banned
Posts: 4199
Joined: Tue Jun 05, 2007 15:57
Location: Derby

Re: A83 Rest And Be Thankful blocked again

Post by Comstock »

Mark Hewitt wrote:It's supposed to be one way convoy working I think.
Thanks- that makes sense :)
Post Reply