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Rambo wrote: Thu Jan 21, 2021 19:33
Bryn666 wrote: Thu Jan 21, 2021 19:28 This completely hideous and uninspiring road scheme is underway in Blackburn:

https://democracy.blackburn.gov.uk/docu ... 097547.pdf

The genius of the plan is now forcing 44t HGVs to make a very difficult left (or right) turn between a corner shop and a former pub, because they can't build the western half of this road because it would run through a woodland.
A bit like this https://www.google.com/maps/@53.3853451 ... 312!8i6656 sharp bend on a previously unclassified industrial road. Now a primary route as part of the Warrington centre park link road.
There's two problems:

1) HGVs are too large for our roads and the 44t size should never have been approved so such low-spec designs can function as intended
2) Highway design ignores the laws of physics to save money, and creates substandard infrastructure that doesn't work
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Bryn666 wrote: Thu Jan 21, 2021 19:35
Rambo wrote: Thu Jan 21, 2021 19:33
Bryn666 wrote: Thu Jan 21, 2021 19:28 This completely hideous and uninspiring road scheme is underway in Blackburn:

https://democracy.blackburn.gov.uk/docu ... 097547.pdf

The genius of the plan is now forcing 44t HGVs to make a very difficult left (or right) turn between a corner shop and a former pub, because they can't build the western half of this road because it would run through a woodland.
A bit like this https://www.google.com/maps/@53.3853451 ... 312!8i6656 sharp bend on a previously unclassified industrial road. Now a primary route as part of the Warrington centre park link road.
There's two problems:

1) HGVs are too large for our roads and the 44t size should never have been approved so such low-spec designs can function as intended
2) Highway design ignores the laws of physics to save money, and creates substandard infrastructure that doesn't work
A fresh road surface a some new kerbs and it'll 'be reet'! well that's what WBC highways dept must have thought when this was signed off..
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Been searching the net to find any official plans, but all I can find is a reference in this article: https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/news ... ht-4763738

The Park Hill Lane crossroads on the A46 north of Leicester is getting an upgrade, in light of Leicester City's new training complex which is now up and running, just off the A46 to the west. The cones are up and work appears to be starting, temporary 50 limit on both carriageways for approximately a mile on the approach and through the junction. Looks like they'll be increasing the capacity for waiting in between the carriageways. It's not sufficient in my eyes. I drive through this junction every day, and frankly it was an accident black spot anyway before the increased traffic from the training complex. Needed grade separation - a simple diamond junction would be enough. But, as with the rest of this substandard stretch, it's a sticking plaster solution.
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danfw194 wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 14:25 Been searching the net to find any official plans, but all I can find is a reference in this article: https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/news ... ht-4763738

The Park Hill Lane crossroads on the A46 north of Leicester is getting an upgrade, in light of Leicester City's new training complex which is now up and running, just off the A46 to the west. The cones are up and work appears to be starting, temporary 50 limit on both carriageways for approximately a mile on the approach and through the junction. Looks like they'll be increasing the capacity for waiting in between the carriageways. It's not sufficient in my eyes. I drive through this junction every day, and frankly it was an accident black spot anyway before the increased traffic from the training complex. Needed grade separation - a simple diamond junction would be enough. But, as with the rest of this substandard stretch, it's a sticking plaster solution.
Completely agree. Since Newark-Widmerpool, this is the lowest-standard in terms of safety for the whole A46 for me. It was a perfect opportunity to use private money to improve the junction. Either shut it or make it a GSJ. And why not insist the work is done in advance of the training ground opening- despite the diversion signs the number of contractors using the crossroads last year was huge.

Let me know if you work out whether the speed camera has also been reduced to 50mph or not :wink:
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darkcape wrote: Sun Jan 24, 2021 20:21
danfw194 wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 14:25 Been searching the net to find any official plans, but all I can find is a reference in this article: https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/news ... ht-4763738

The Park Hill Lane crossroads on the A46 north of Leicester is getting an upgrade, in light of Leicester City's new training complex which is now up and running, just off the A46 to the west. The cones are up and work appears to be starting, temporary 50 limit on both carriageways for approximately a mile on the approach and through the junction. Looks like they'll be increasing the capacity for waiting in between the carriageways. It's not sufficient in my eyes. I drive through this junction every day, and frankly it was an accident black spot anyway before the increased traffic from the training complex. Needed grade separation - a simple diamond junction would be enough. But, as with the rest of this substandard stretch, it's a sticking plaster solution.
Completely agree. Since Newark-Widmerpool, this is the lowest-standard in terms of safety for the whole A46 for me. It was a perfect opportunity to use private money to improve the junction. Either shut it or make it a GSJ. And why not insist the work is done in advance of the training ground opening- despite the diversion signs the number of contractors using the crossroads last year was huge.

Let me know if you work out whether the speed camera has also been reduced to 50mph or not :wink:
Yep, this should have been wrapped up properly in the granting of planning permission for the training ground.
As I've said previously on here, looking at the full Syston-Newark stretch, you will struggle to find a road which has such a stark contrast in the quality of it's sections; north of Widmerpool is a joy, south is a calamity.

I've seen cars going through at north of 50mph and no flashes, so I reckon it's still sitting on 70. Although even then, I'm unconvinced they're even switched on for 70! Never seen a single flash in over 4 years of daily driving in both directions.......not that I fancy testing that theory!
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danfw194 wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 12:02
darkcape wrote: Sun Jan 24, 2021 20:21
danfw194 wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 14:25 Been searching the net to find any official plans, but all I can find is a reference in this article: https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/news ... ht-4763738

The Park Hill Lane crossroads on the A46 north of Leicester is getting an upgrade, in light of Leicester City's new training complex which is now up and running, just off the A46 to the west. The cones are up and work appears to be starting, temporary 50 limit on both carriageways for approximately a mile on the approach and through the junction. Looks like they'll be increasing the capacity for waiting in between the carriageways. It's not sufficient in my eyes. I drive through this junction every day, and frankly it was an accident black spot anyway before the increased traffic from the training complex. Needed grade separation - a simple diamond junction would be enough. But, as with the rest of this substandard stretch, it's a sticking plaster solution.
Completely agree. Since Newark-Widmerpool, this is the lowest-standard in terms of safety for the whole A46 for me. It was a perfect opportunity to use private money to improve the junction. Either shut it or make it a GSJ. And why not insist the work is done in advance of the training ground opening- despite the diversion signs the number of contractors using the crossroads last year was huge.

Let me know if you work out whether the speed camera has also been reduced to 50mph or not :wink:
Yep, this should have been wrapped up properly in the granting of planning permission for the training ground.
As I've said previously on here, looking at the full Syston-Newark stretch, you will struggle to find a road which has such a stark contrast in the quality of it's sections; north of Widmerpool is a joy, south is a calamity.

I've seen cars going through at north of 50mph and no flashes, so I reckon it's still sitting on 70. Although even then, I'm unconvinced they're even switched on for 70! Never seen a single flash in over 4 years of daily driving in both directions.......not that I fancy testing that theory!
There isn’t a calibration certificate available for the A46 cameras on the Leicestershire speed partnership website.

So I’d imagine they aren’t active

https://www.speedorsafety.com/camera-lo ... statistics
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They certainly worked at some point because I've seen it flash but it would have been years and years ago.
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Southbound definetley flashed a few times last year, not sure I've ever seen northbound go off.
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Work starts on new link from M62 J19 to Heywood

https://www.placenorthwest.co.uk/news/s ... s-project/
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BBC talking about a possible clifftop diversion of the A183:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-55962270
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Trafford council is proposing a relief road at Carrington. I don't know why one of the options is called the A1 route.

https://www.trafford.gov.uk/residents/t ... -road.aspx
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wrinkly wrote: Thu Mar 04, 2021 17:41 Trafford council is proposing a relief road at Carrington. I don't know why one of the options is called the A1 route.

https://www.trafford.gov.uk/residents/t ... -road.aspx
I suppose this is part of the scheme to redevelop the old Shell Chemicals site at Carrington
https://www.trafford.gov.uk/planning/st ... tement.pdf
We often drove along the A6144 through Partington and Carrington as a way of getting to the Trafford Centre. Most of it is pretty dreary, to be honest !
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wrinkly wrote: Thu Mar 04, 2021 17:41I don't know why one of the options is called the A1 route.
It appears to follow the line of an existing road on the refinery site called A1 Road. It's marked as such on OpenStreetMap. Presumably the other vertical and horizontal roads on the refinery's internal road system are also lettered and numbered for reference.
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fras wrote: Thu Mar 04, 2021 18:00 We often drove along the A6144 through Partington and Carrington as a way of getting to the Trafford Centre. Most of it is pretty dreary, to be honest !
Though I once saw a heron from it.
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Recent aerial footage of the ongoing construction of the Preston Western Distribution Road aka Preston western bypass D2, including the new M55 junction 2

https://www.facebook.com/watch/Preston- ... 587906910/
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A couple of minor schemes being consulted about on the A487 in mid-Wales, both between Aberystwyth and Aberaeron.

Climbing lanes up and down the hill north of Aberarth, including a rest area/viewpoint at the top. Plans here.

Also further north at Llanrhystud they are planning a shorter overtaking lane and new roundabout.
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Herned wrote: Wed Mar 17, 2021 11:50 A couple of minor schemes being consulted about on the A487 in mid-Wales, both between Aberystwyth and Aberaeron.

Climbing lanes up and down the hill north of Aberarth, including a rest area/viewpoint at the top. Plans here.

Also further north at Llanrhystud they are planning a shorter overtaking lane and new roundabout.
There are also three recent similar small proposals on the A470 at Llanidloes, Llangurig and Pontybat.

https://gov.wales/a470-llanidloes-safety-scheme

https://gov.wales/a470-llangurig-safety-scheme

https://gov.wales/a470-pontybat-safety-scheme
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Congleton new Link Road to open shortly.
Although it is called a Link Road, it is much more boldly engineered than one would expect for such a name, and is much more bypass-like, although clearly there are no GSJs on it, it is single carriageway and roundabouts. Nice to see even if it has been needed for 30 years.
https://www.cheshireeast.gov.uk/council ... -open.aspx
Maybe Middlewich will be next, hope springs eternal, as they say.
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I wrote: Tue Apr 25, 2017 17:14 Blackhorse Lane, Addiscombe is unclassified but quite well used as it is the only link (save for the ends) between the A222 and B143. A weak bridge over the now tram tracks has lead to its closure As seen here. Croydon Council's solution was to put a "We are going to start work on this in January 2018" notice on the closure (some 18 months afterwards) and ban parking on one side of the A215 Spring Lane to try to help flow there.

If you are going to be in the area, particularly at the conclusion of games at Selhurst Park, expect long delays on the A215 Portland Road towards Addiscombe. I'll report again when the route is re-opened.
Well I was I bit late on reporting back, but after four years closed, on 25th February 2020 Blackhorse Lane re-opened. This did take some of the pressure off the A215 at Spring Lane. What helped even more was of course the Covid virus and particularly on match days at Selhurst Park. Of course from 2020 Croydon Council started closing off back roads en-masse but that is one for the Covid Road Closure thread. It will be interesting to see how it all copes after everyone comes out of hiding. It's already very bad at the A215/A213 junction.
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Chris5156 wrote: Thu Mar 04, 2021 19:00
wrinkly wrote: Thu Mar 04, 2021 17:41I don't know why one of the options is called the A1 route.
It appears to follow the line of an existing road on the refinery site called A1 Road. It's marked as such on OpenStreetMap. Presumably the other vertical and horizontal roads on the refinery's internal road system are also lettered and numbered for reference.
My first thought when I saw A1 was a reference to the aircraft fuel, but this part of the site wasn't a refinery so I think you are probably right that it was part of the internal numbering. It used to have buses along it for Shell workers, North Western RCC 203 originally (described as "via Petrochemicals") and later Greater Manchester Transport 243, which ceased some time around 1982/3. The fathers of a few of my friends worked there, although I will grant you few caught the bus - wages there were amongst the best locally.
fras wrote: Thu Mar 04, 2021 18:00 I suppose this is part of the scheme to redevelop the old Shell Chemicals site at Carrington
https://www.trafford.gov.uk/planning/st ... tement.pdf
We often drove along the A6144 through Partington and Carrington as a way of getting to the Trafford Centre. Most of it is pretty dreary, to be honest !
It might be dreary now, but the Carrington stretch of the A6144 always fascinated me as a child, with its varied industrial plants, particularly at night when all lit up - it felt like being driven through a Thunderbirds set 8-) !

Later, it became our usual cycle route out into pleasanter parts of Cheshire, although I now realise that the last thing a tanker driver might wish to encounter on his return to base after a long shift was a group of three or four teenage cyclists on such a narrow, twisting road. I would certainly be all in favour of the road being diverted via the A1 Route, although I am less convinced by some of the development aims listed in the document linked to by fras.
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