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Re: botched road markings

Post by FleetlinePhil » Thu Sep 17, 2020 11:47

TS wrote:
Sun Sep 13, 2020 21:49
How about this for a two-in-one?! A mightily confusing STOP at the stop line of traffic lights, and give way markings at another!

I myself was confused by the give way markings as I exited the shops' service road, ahead. I wondered how I was going to manoeuvre to the stop line of the lights just in front of us, before I noticed that I too was governed by a separate traffic light.

I can also imagine someone arriving here, seeing STOP, assuming it was stop-sign regulations and not then see the traffic light.

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It's at the road down to Blackwater Station off the A30.
In the 2019 GSV image, the STOP seems to have worn off (along with the stop line!). Is your image older or has it actually been redone with the STOP lettering?

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Re: botched road markings

Post by TS » Thu Sep 17, 2020 12:30

FleetlinePhil wrote:
Thu Sep 17, 2020 11:47
TS wrote:
Sun Sep 13, 2020 21:49
How about this for a two-in-one?! A mightily confusing STOP at the stop line of traffic lights, and give way markings at another!

I myself was confused by the give way markings as I exited the shops' service road, ahead. I wondered how I was going to manoeuvre to the stop line of the lights just in front of us, before I noticed that I too was governed by a separate traffic light.

I can also imagine someone arriving here, seeing STOP, assuming it was stop-sign regulations and not then see the traffic light.

20200913_141424.jpg

It's at the road down to Blackwater Station off the A30.
In the 2019 GSV image, the STOP seems to have worn off (along with the stop line!). Is your image older or has it actually been redone with the STOP lettering?
It's been redone - my photo was taken on Sunday morning!

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Re: botched road markings

Post by Chris5156 » Thu Sep 17, 2020 17:26

Chris Bertram wrote:
Thu Sep 17, 2020 11:29
TS wrote:
Thu Sep 17, 2020 11:20
I'm not sure if this is exactly botched, but what could be the reason for this short stretch of double yellow lines? They are unsignposted.

I mean, they do cover a driveway (and a few feet to one side of it) but it doesn't seem particularly different from any of the other driveways hereabouts.

Any thoughts?

https://goo.gl/maps/CXdaCNnvJWtKFkud7
A councillor lives there?
Or the council's road marking contractor :laugh:

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Re: botched road markings

Post by someone » Fri Sep 18, 2020 15:56

I would have assumed a disabled person lives, or lived, at that property.

The right transverse mark looks to be painted over a white marking, with the outer yellow line being thicker also less broken up. So possibly there used to be an H-bar that was being ignored, and so it was replaced by yellow lines to make it enforceable.

https://goo.gl/maps/Ls1nocaGqtHPTMro6

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Re: botched road markings

Post by Jonathan24 » Fri Sep 18, 2020 20:30

someone wrote:
Fri Sep 18, 2020 15:56
I would have assumed a disabled person lives, or lived, at that property.

The right transverse mark looks to be painted over a white marking, with the outer yellow line being thicker also less broken up. So possibly there used to be an H-bar that was being ignored, and so it was replaced by yellow lines to make it enforceable.

https://goo.gl/maps/Ls1nocaGqtHPTMro6
It looks like it was white in the 2015 image but perhaps that is just the quality of the Google image:

https://www.google.com/maps/@50.7486306 ... 312!8i6656

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Re: botched road markings

Post by someone » Sat Sep 19, 2020 10:35

Jonathan24 wrote:
Fri Sep 18, 2020 20:30
It looks like it was white in the 2015 image but perhaps that is just the quality of the Google image:
Aye, so much for that theory! And no blue badge in the parked car either.

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Re: botched road markings

Post by TS » Mon Sep 21, 2020 12:49

someone wrote:
Sat Sep 19, 2020 10:35
Jonathan24 wrote:
Fri Sep 18, 2020 20:30
It looks like it was white in the 2015 image but perhaps that is just the quality of the Google image:
Aye, so much for that theory! And no blue badge in the parked car either.
Hmm, an interesting thought that I had't thought of, even though it has perhaps been debunked!

But surely, anyway, a marking for a disabled driver would not go across a driveway, would it? A place would surely be reserved between driveways?

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Re: botched road markings

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Re: botched road markings

Post by Runwell » Mon Nov 30, 2020 17:31

Not exactly akin with the examples above. However it is strange, that nearly 30 years since traffic heading clockwise on the M25/A282 was switched to the QE2 Bridge, the markings on the M11 n/b exit at J6 still painted for Dartford Tunnel. The stretch itself doesn't appear to have been recently resurfaced, but I can't imagine on such a main road that that particular part of the slip road hasn't been since 1991, and surely the markings have been repainted in that time?

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Re: botched road markings

Post by Chris5156 » Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:27

Runwell wrote:
Mon Nov 30, 2020 17:31
Not exactly akin with the examples above. However it is strange, that nearly 30 years since traffic heading clockwise on the M25/A282 was switched to the QE2 Bridge, the markings on the M11 n/b exit at J6 still painted for Dartford Tunnel. The stretch itself doesn't appear to have been recently resurfaced, but I can't imagine on such a main road that that particular part of the slip road hasn't been since 1991, and surely the markings have been repainted in that time?
If a road is resurfaced, the markings are usually noted down and painted on the new surface like for like. And if a road’s markings are repainted they are usually just given a new coat on top of the old. So it’s probably just an unthinking continuation of what was always there.

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Re: botched road markings

Post by Bfivethousand » Tue Dec 01, 2020 12:13

Hmmmm....

That image also displays one of my top pet hates as a traffic engineer and motorist - lazy-ass contractors who think placing Chapter 8 warning signs at 3 metre intervals is in any way acceptable.
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Re: botched road markings

Post by Rambo » Thu Jan 21, 2021 20:04

Ok it's a retail park so technically a private road but this abomination was put in place a couple of years ago. It's been altered now with a one way system in and out of the place.
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