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Re: A27 - East of Lewes £75M consultation

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If there is a possibility of a ‘proper’ improvement between Lewes and Polegate in the pipeline then this just seems like a massive waste of money.
Don’t know the area but how many equestrians use/cross the A27??
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Commonsense would suggest that they cancel this scheme and use the saving to accelerate the proper one.
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jackal wrote: Fri Mar 15, 2019 08:23 Commonsense would suggest that they cancel this scheme and use the saving to accelerate the proper one.
That would seem the best approach but givens its the HE and Government money when does common sense come into it
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Orders publishes on the scheme website: https://highwaysengland.co.uk/projects/ ... -of-lewes/
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Construction has now started at the Drusilla's Roundabout with station road closed a whole year while works take place. Hopefully they still permit cycles to use it, or at least north of Common Lane as it is on NCN Route 2 and a diversion here is difficult while trying to avoid the A27. Cycles could use the short section of A27 footway between Common Lane and the roundabout if permitted.

Also last September there were two modifications orders to the NMU path that I have only just seen.
https://assets.highwaysengland.co.uk/ro ... h+MOD1.pdf
The biggest change is to its legal status, previously it would of been classified as a bridleway, however this has now been changed to a "Restricted Byway (without a right to drive animals)" aka No ridden animals, but you can lead an animal on foot. Making the change from Bridleway to Restricted Byway only really has 2 legal differences, one is that motor vehicles are prohibited by default unless other rights exist (its not nessicarlly illegal to drive on a bridleway), and the other being that the way has to be maintained for use by bicycles, bridleways don't, although this doesn't mean it has to be paved.
So it being legally a Restricted Byway makes sense, however explicit prohibition of "driven" animals doesn't. The order states the reason as "in order to avoid compromising the safety of equestrian users of the path during operation", which its a stupid reason unless another route for horses are provided. There are many E-W PRoW routes that horses can use south of the A27, however these are some distance away.

https://assets.highwaysengland.co.uk/ro ... h+MOD2.pdf
The other change is to what is actually being built that does also involve changing of some accesses. This only really notable change is that most of the "boardwalks" have been replaced by more sufficient bridges, and as such turning heads have been removed. This may of been a result of the new standards as set out in LTN 1/20 in July(?) last year.
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Works look like they are in their final phases on the East of Lewes A27 scheme.
I drove through it earlier this month, and Google Street View did in September, so there are some fairly upto date images from that.
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@50.82679 ... 384!8i8192 - New dual carriageway (S2 -> D2) seems complete now with just cones closing off lanes going SB. - Signage was in place in October unlike here in September

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@50.82166 ... 384!8i8192 - Railway bridge wasn't widened to S4 like suggested in consultation documents. Will remain S2+1.

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@50.82060 ... 384!8i8192 - Polegate Junction. Some places need final surfaces and commissioning of traffic signals.

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@50.82670 ... 384!8i8192 - Drusilla's Roundabout was open in October (not here in September), A27 either side has a short (80m & 130m) section of D2 (instead of S4 as proposed). There is also a funky segregated bridleway besides the shared cycle/footway around the Western side of the roundabout along with a Pegasus & Toucan crossings on the Western side. Station Road to the North is still closed as they construct the shared cycle/footway alongside that to meet with the current shared cycle/footway (NCN2) a few hundred meters to the North.

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@50.85136 ... 384!8i8192 - can't see it here, but works on the new paved cycleway (Restricted Byway) have started on the Western side of the scheme.

https://highwaysengland.co.uk/our-work/ ... -of-lewes/
According to the project page, Polegate junction will be complete by the end of November. Unsure about the rest of the scheme, but NH's website still says 2023
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jervi wrote: Sun Oct 31, 2021 15:00 Works look like they are in their final phases on the East of Lewes A27 scheme.
I drove through it earlier this month, and Google Street View did in September, so there are some fairly upto date images from that.
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@50.82679 ... 384!8i8192 - New dual carriageway (S2 -> D2) seems complete now with just cones closing off lanes going SB. - Signage was in place in October unlike here in September

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@50.82166 ... 384!8i8192 - Railway bridge wasn't widened to S4 like suggested in consultation documents. Will remain S2+1.

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@50.82060 ... 384!8i8192 - Polegate Junction. Some places need final surfaces and commissioning of traffic signals.

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@50.82670 ... 384!8i8192 - Drusilla's Roundabout was open in October (not here in September), A27 either side has a short (80m & 130m) section of D2 (instead of S4 as proposed). There is also a funky segregated bridleway besides the shared cycle/footway around the Western side of the roundabout along with a Pegasus & Toucan crossings on the Western side. Station Road to the North is still closed as they construct the shared cycle/footway alongside that to meet with the current shared cycle/footway (NCN2) a few hundred meters to the North.

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@50.85136 ... 384!8i8192 - can't see it here, but works on the new paved cycleway (Restricted Byway) have started on the Western side of the scheme.

https://highwaysengland.co.uk/our-work/ ... -of-lewes/
According to the project page, Polegate junction will be complete by the end of November. Unsure about the rest of the scheme, but NH's website still says 2023
I have been following this project. I see that Google are now showing the completed Polegate section. HE never announced that the railway bridge was not going to be widened. With the larger scheme in the future roads programme I can see why matters have been left as they are. But I have not see any announcement that this part of the scheme was scaled back from the preferred route announcement?
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