M25 junction 28 improvements

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I believe it's going to take 2 years to complete. Although this will move the traffic onto a new alignment unless they're actually going to widen the A12 which there doesn't appear to be any plans to do (should have been done years ago) then all this is doing is putting more traffic onto an already overloaded road.
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Work appears to already be underway, the land is being cleared though believe this is just for the welfare centre.

Will the loop road end up being part of the A12 or M25, or something like an A12(M), a very short motorway?

As pointed out it seems silly the Brentwood Bypass will not be widened. On the westbound carriageway heading towards Brook Street there is often congestion now with traffic backing up to the roundabout.
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qwertyK wrote: Fri Aug 19, 2022 10:26Will the loop road end up being part of the A12 or M25, or something like an A12(M), a very short motorway?
It'll be a sliproad off a motorway, so part of the M25, just like the sliproads connecting the M25 to the roundabout.
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Chris5156 wrote: Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:02
qwertyK wrote: Fri Aug 19, 2022 10:26Will the loop road end up being part of the A12 or M25, or something like an A12(M), a very short motorway?
It'll be a sliproad off a motorway, so part of the M25, just like the sliproads connecting the M25 to the roundabout.
Don't rule out NH cocking it up and ending the motorway immediately at the diverge...
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Bryn666 wrote: Sun Aug 21, 2022 10:14
Chris5156 wrote: Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:02
qwertyK wrote: Fri Aug 19, 2022 10:26Will the loop road end up being part of the A12 or M25, or something like an A12(M), a very short motorway?
It'll be a sliproad off a motorway, so part of the M25, just like the sliproads connecting the M25 to the roundabout.
Don't rule out NH cocking it up and ending the motorway immediately at the diverge...
I'd expect well informed people from within the industry to satisfy themselves before raising doubt - it took me about 3 minutes.
Naturally the information is readily available within the DCO (Schedule 4 Part 1) and shown on the Streets, Rights of Way and Access plans.
Yes the entire loop is to be a special road.
Link to DCO process
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RichardA35 wrote: Sun Aug 21, 2022 12:04
Bryn666 wrote: Sun Aug 21, 2022 10:14
Chris5156 wrote: Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:02
It'll be a sliproad off a motorway, so part of the M25, just like the sliproads connecting the M25 to the roundabout.
Don't rule out NH cocking it up and ending the motorway immediately at the diverge...
I'd expect well informed people from within the industry to satisfy themselves before raising doubt - it took me about 3 minutes.
Naturally the information is readily available within the DCO (Schedule 4 Part 1) and shown on the Streets, Rights of Way and Access plans.
Yes the entire loop is to be a special road.
Link to DCO process
You can forgive my justified cynicism given that several major highway schemes have got these basics wrong, including the still in planning LTC which will have arbitrary terminal points for motorway restrictions, where also the A1(M), M56 spring to mind, or have forgone the logical processes to designate using legislation rather than some protracted TRO process in the name of political expediency (A14).

Having had to spend the last half decade dealing with a supposed "industry expert" at NH to get a Section 278 signed off because he knows best, I wouldn't credit it with much. I spend enough time "enjoying" the English trunk road system to know that actual traffic engineering competence is a secondary concern to public relations and looking good to their political masters.
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There's this masterpiece a couple of junctions along: https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.49922 ... 384!8i8192
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jackal wrote: Sun Aug 21, 2022 20:28 There's this masterpiece a couple of junctions along: https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.49922 ... 384!8i8192
The motorway status continues further along the sliproads than it does on the mainline itself. The M25 arbitrarily ends immediately at the diverge for no obvious reason.
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Work has now started on the M25 Junction 28 improvement scheme. It's due to be completed by summer 2025.
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"M25 junction upgrade set to hit its 'biggest milestone'"

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-67287879
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