A6 Broughton Bypass

[c2R]

An update on this - the northern tie in and eastern roundabout have been constructed, along with the southeastern section, a dual carriageway linking the Broughton Roundabout with a new roundabout providing access to D'Urton Way.

This evening heading southbound on the A6, traffic queueing for Broughton roundabout was being diverted up to the D'Urton Way roundabout and back down the other side of the dual carriageway.

[wrinkly]

Today the bypass looked just about ready to open.

[SteveA30]

Looking on Google, unless the old road is blocked off at some point, I can't see how the bypass would be quicker. There is one signalised junction in Broughton, against 2 extra rbts on the bypass itself. It is half dualled so, that is in its favour.

[wrinkly]

Looking on Google, unless the old road is blocked off at some point, I can't see how the bypass would be quicker. There is one signalised junction in Broughton, against 2 extra rbts on the bypass itself. It is half dualled so, that is in its favour.

There are traffic lights in the centre of the village, and at the south end where the road through the village will turn off the new A6. These can be adjusted to give minimum time to north-south traffic through the village. I expect kerblines will probably be adjusted at the crossroads to widen the narrow footways and remove right turn lanes.

[SteveA30]

Logically, the lights would be removed after through traffic is gone but, I don't suppose that will happen. A mini rbt would do the job for the reduced traffic levels.

[Bryn666]

The old A6 will be massively narrowed and priority given to the B road. Rat running through Broughton will be pointless.

[Pendlemac]

The old A6 will be massively narrowed and priority given to the B road.

Have the plans changed then? The ones I have seen on the bypass website state that the central cross-roads will be a shared-space with equal priority for all vehicle movements and pedestrians.

BTW, found out yesterday that the opening date was announced back in September and will be the 5th of this month. ( This Thursday. )

Also rat-running will be impossible for the first month as the road just south of the new northern roundabout is being closed on the 9th to allow the repair of a culvert under the current A6.

[Pendlemac]

Looking on Google, unless the old road is blocked off at some point, I can't see how the bypass would be quicker. There is one signalised junction in Broughton, against 2 extra rbts on the bypass itself. It is half dualled so, that is in its favour.

There are traffic lights in the centre of the village, and at the south end where the road through the village will turn off the new A6. These can be adjusted to give minimum time to north-south traffic through the village. I expect kerblines will probably be adjusted at the crossroads to widen the narrow footways and remove right turn lanes.

Central lights to be removed and replaced with shared space.

The southern junction appears to be LILO with all vehicles ( except buses ) heading for Preston having to use D'Urton Lane roundabout to U-turn.

Buses can turn right at the south end of the village so the lights there will simply be to stop bypass traffic to allow them across.

[Bryn666]

The old A6 will be massively narrowed and priority given to the B road.

Have the plans changed then? The ones I have seen on the bypass website state that the central cross-roads will be a shared-space with equal priority for all vehicle movements and pedestrians.

BTW, found out yesterday that the opening date was announced back in September and will be the 5th of this month. ( This Thursday. )

Also rat-running will be impossible for the first month as the road just south of the new northern roundabout is being closed on the 9th to allow the repair of a culvert under the current A6.

Job for me to go and look at after work then

[Jeni]

Surprise surprise, I was there...

[SteveA30]

Good stuff. The middle rbt seems to be busy from the start.

[A9NWIL]

Looking on Google, unless the old road is blocked off at some point, I can't see how the bypass would be quicker. There is one signalised junction in Broughton, against 2 extra rbts on the bypass itself. It is half dualled so, that is in its favour.

There are traffic lights in the centre of the village, and at the south end where the road through the village will turn off the new A6. These can be adjusted to give minimum time to north-south traffic through the village. I expect kerblines will probably be adjusted at the crossroads to widen the narrow footways and remove right turn lanes.

Central lights to be removed and replaced with shared space.

The southern junction appears to be LILO with all vehicles ( except buses ) heading for Preston having to use D'Urton Lane roundabout to U-turn.

Buses can turn right at the south end of the village so the lights there will simply be to stop bypass traffic to allow them across.

A good question is why cant the buses do U turns at the roundabout too? its not as if its that far away!

[Bryn666]

Because then it wouldn't be a bus priority measure...

[A9NWIL]

Because then it wouldn't be a bus priority measure...

If they want that then they should have built a bridge over both carriageways, why should it disrupt both of them? If it cant be paid for properly then why bother with it?

[ScottB5411]

It's not like there is a bus every 2 minutes through there, bypass traffic will be held up for probably 10 seconds, if that.

[A9NWIL]

It's not like there is a bus every 2 minutes through there, bypass traffic will be held up for probably 10 seconds, if that.

So how long will it take for a bus to go up to the roundabout and back? 1 minuet?

[ScottB5411]

It's not like there is a bus every 2 minutes through there, bypass traffic will be held up for probably 10 seconds, if that.

So how long will it take for a bus to go up to the roundabout and back? 1 minuet?

So it should be A6(M) then? Why build A roads at all, only build motorways from now on? Screw public transport and woe betide anyone who wishes to use a bus to get to work or go to town. Nice logic. I assume you commute down the A6 daily do you through Broughton? The extra 10 seconds going to ruin your life?

[Jeni]

Because then it wouldn't be a bus priority measure...

If they want that then they should have built a bridge over both carriageways, why should it disrupt both of them? If it cant be paid for properly then why bother with it?

Wait, you're *seriously* suggesting a grade separated bus lane for a bus that's (probably) at most every 10-15 minutes?

Yeah. Right.

Meanwhile, in the real world..

[A9NWIL]

It's not like there is a bus every 2 minutes through there, bypass traffic will be held up for probably 10 seconds, if that.

So how long will it take for a bus to go up to the roundabout and back? 1 minuet?

So it should be A6(M) then? Why build A roads at all, only build motorways from now on? Screw public transport and woe betide anyone who wishes to use a bus to get to work or go to town. Nice logic. I assume you commute down the A6 daily do you through Broughton? The extra 10 seconds going to ruin your life?

Did I say make it a motorway? Its what 500 metres to go up to the next roundabout and back and would take 1-2 minuets of a busses time on a fast road.

Or better still they could have extended the roundabout that goes under the M56 and had the old A6 join that as a separate entity to the new by-pass.

[A9NWIL]

Because then it wouldn't be a bus priority measure...

If they want that then they should have built a bridge over both carriageways, why should it disrupt both of them? If it cant be paid for properly then why bother with it?

Wait, you're *seriously* suggesting a grade separated bus lane for a bus that's (probably) at most every 10-15 minutes?

Yeah. Right.

Meanwhile, in the real world..

Or check out my new suggestion on my previous post to this.