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by multiraider2 » Sun Aug 02, 2020 17:04

Given that people may be put off/prevented from taking foreign holidays for some considerable time and Cornwall seems like very many people's alternative, hopefully there are no problems in getting this done within the expected time-frame.
Although completion isn't expected until 2023/2024, and I would hope Covid won't be an issue for as long as that. But you never know :/.
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Start of main work confirmed for end of September.

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According to the mighty Pirate FM work is due to start in the next few days.
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by Hdeng16 » Thu Aug 13, 2020 11:08

According to the mighty Pirate FM work is due to start in the next few days.
Looking on the web, I can't find anything that says days rather than weeks. Perhaps they made a mistake, or are you sure you didn't hear it wrong.
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Pure guesswork here and not based on any information whatsoever, but I it could be things like setting up the site compound that are starting in the next few days.
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RichardEvans67 wrote: Thu Aug 13, 2020 17:05
by Hdeng16 » Thu Aug 13, 2020 11:08

According to the mighty Pirate FM work is due to start in the next few days.
Looking on the web, I can't find anything that says days rather than weeks. Perhaps they made a mistake, or are you sure you didn't hear it wrong.
Possibly did, was only background - but I was only expecting the same as DavidBrown suggested - compounds etc - anyway because I'd already seen your IANs post about September
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Hdeng16 wrote: Thu Aug 13, 2020 11:08 According to the mighty Pirate FM work is due to start in the next few days.
I was in Cornwall last week and they refered to work commencing in September and the virtual meeting on work starting this Friday on this press release
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A303Chris wrote: Mon Aug 17, 2020 16:23
Hdeng16 wrote: Thu Aug 13, 2020 11:08 According to the mighty Pirate FM work is due to start in the next few days.
I was in Cornwall last week and they refered to work commencing in September and the virtual meeting on work starting this Friday on this press release
I think that’s probably what I heard then! :oops: :oops:
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Long piece on the local BBC news just now, saying work to begin in early October, with opening in 2023.

Let's see if it can open before Crossrail!
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by fchd » Fri Aug 21, 2020 18:44

Long piece on the local BBC news just now, saying work to begin in early October, with opening in 2023.
I wonder if it's on IPlayer. I assume BBC1 South West, at 6:30 pm, which is not available :(.
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RichardEvans67 wrote: Sun Aug 23, 2020 21:24 I wonder if it's on IPlayer. I assume BBC1 South West, at 6:30 pm, which is not available :(.
Normally news programmes are only on iPlayer for 24 hours, if I'm not mistaken?
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fchd wrote: Fri Aug 21, 2020 18:44 Long piece on the local BBC news just now, saying work to begin in early October, with opening in 2023.

Let's see if it can open before Crossrail!
At the risk of a massive thread-drift :

What is the problem with Crossrail? It was going to open Dec 2018, then Dec 2019. In Sept 19 it was announced as 'another 6 months late', making it June 20, then in Nov 19 it became due in 2021. Now it's 2023.

Some of the delay is Covid-related, but Covid hasn't delayed it by 2 years. Is something fundamentally wrong with the construction?
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by Big L » Sun Aug 23, 2020 22:13

At the risk of a massive thread-drift :

What is the problem with Crossrail? It was going to open Dec 2018, then Dec 2019. In Sept 19 it was announced as 'another 6 months late', making it June 20, then in Nov 19 it became due in 2021. Now it's 2023.

Some of the delay is Covid-related, but Covid hasn't delayed it by 2 years. Is something fundamentally wrong with the construction?
Well, as understand it was a 7 year project to start with. Perhaps A 2 year delay to a 7 year project is not massively unusual.
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I think that the social distancing aspect has hit, and will continue to hit construction timeframes - after all, it's not a building site in open air. Also, if you're delaying something,surely it's better to propose a realistic delay timeframe rather than to promise something which then may need to be moved again.

Finally, having needed to make some cement recently, there appear to be supply chain issues with some of the raw ingredients; ballast was difficult to obtain.
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RichardEvans67 wrote: Mon Aug 24, 2020 04:33
by Big L » Sun Aug 23, 2020 22:13

At the risk of a massive thread-drift :

What is the problem with Crossrail? It was going to open Dec 2018, then Dec 2019. In Sept 19 it was announced as 'another 6 months late', making it June 20, then in Nov 19 it became due in 2021. Now it's 2023.

Some of the delay is Covid-related, but Covid hasn't delayed it by 2 years. Is something fundamentally wrong with the construction?
Well, as understand it was a 7 year project to start with. Perhaps A 2 year delay to a 7 year project is not massively unusual.
Wikipedia tells me construction started in 09 so originally a 9 year project, now looking at 5 years late.
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When this section is built, there will be a continuous DC from Camborne to the M5 at Exeter. Is it likely that the A30 will become one of the first expressway-designated routes?
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Whilst the A30 mainline will be continuous from M5 to Hayle, there still remain I think two at-grade junctions which would need dealing with.
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BF2142 wrote: Wed Aug 26, 2020 12:41 When this section is built, there will be a continuous DC from Camborne to the M5 at Exeter. Is it likely that the A30 will become one of the first expressway-designated routes?
Unlikely. Unlike the A38 Devon Expressway from he end of the M5 to the Tamar Bridge there are still old 1960/70/80's at grade junctions along the A30 specifically between Exeter and Okehampton and over Bodmin Moor from Launceston to Bodmin.

You can not have an expressway with these junctions.
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A320Driver wrote: Wed Aug 26, 2020 13:39 Whilst the A30 mainline will be continuous from M5 to Hayle, there still remain I think two at-grade junctions which would need dealing with.
The two at grade junctions are on single carriageway sections , so the A30 will be continuous DC to Cambourne , then SC for three miles to Hayle. It is very unlikely that these roundabouts will be grade separated, as apart from summer Friday and Saturday afternoons in my experience they flow well.
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A303Chris wrote: Wed Aug 26, 2020 14:04
BF2142 wrote: Wed Aug 26, 2020 12:41 When this section is built, there will be a continuous DC from Camborne to the M5 at Exeter. Is it likely that the A30 will become one of the first expressway-designated routes?
Unlikely. Unlike the A38 Devon Expressway from he end of the M5 to the Tamar Bridge there are still old 1960/70/80's at grade junctions along the A30 specifically between Exeter and Okehampton and over Bodmin Moor from Launceston to Bodmin.

You can not have an expressway with these junctions.
There is a single at grade junction between the M5 at Exeter and the A395 west of Launceston. This is the Pathfinder Village junction which really should have been sorted years ago, especially as there is an over bridge nearby. The central gap was closed for a couple of years a few years back, as part of a trial, but extraordinarily they reopened it again.

West of Launceston that are several at-grade junctions between the A395 at Kennard's House and the turning for Colliford Lake after Bolventor. This section was mostly an early 1990s online upgrade. After Temple I think all the gaps are now closed and they will be no break in the central reservation until Camborne when the current works are finished.
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