M1 J13-16 ALR smart motorway
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Re: M1 J13-16 ALR smart motorway
Courtesy of Great Linford Parish Council:
M1 Overnight Closures
Not sure why there is the need to close all the way from 11A if the scheme is only from J13 though. Also amused by the official 14-11a diversion route, the long way around Leighton Buzzard rather than straight down the A5, clearly Hockliffe residents had their say!
M1 Overnight Closures
Not sure why there is the need to close all the way from 11A if the scheme is only from J13 though. Also amused by the official 14-11a diversion route, the long way around Leighton Buzzard rather than straight down the A5, clearly Hockliffe residents had their say!
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Re: M1 J13-16 ALR smart motorway
In view of the lengthy diversions involved, I am surprised that Highways England has not advised long distance strategic traffic heading to the Midlands and beyond to use the M40 and M42 when the closures take place.Nader wrote: ↑Wed Aug 08, 2018 11:50 Courtesy of Great Linford Parish Council:
M1 Overnight Closures
Not sure why there is the need to close all the way from 11A if the scheme is only from J13 though. Also amused by the official 14-11a diversion route, the long way around Leighton Buzzard rather than straight down the A5, clearly Hockliffe residents had their say!
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They may well have done, that link is just to what they have sent to Great Linford Parish Council, which both backs on to the relevant section of M1 and has the 14-15 diversion route going through it, rather than 'national' publicityRobert Kilcoyne wrote: ↑Wed Aug 08, 2018 13:53 In view of the lengthy diversions involved, I am surprised that Highways England has not advised long distance strategic traffic heading to the Midlands and beyond to use the M40 and M42 when the closures take place.
Re: M1 J13-16 ALR smart motorway
The northbound traffic management will likely start prior to J13 meaning the motorway to be shut from J12, so sensible to shut from 11a.Nader wrote: ↑Wed Aug 08, 2018 11:50 Courtesy of Great Linford Parish Council:
M1 Overnight Closures
Not sure why there is the need to close all the way from 11A if the scheme is only from J13 though. Also amused by the official 14-11a diversion route, the long way around Leighton Buzzard rather than straight down the A5, clearly Hockliffe residents had their say!
Not sure why the diversion avoids most of the A5 unless there is other work scheduled that will clash?
I feel for the residents in the J11a-13 area who have managed just over a year of peace since 11a was completed.
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Re: M1 J13-16 ALR smart motorway
Drove J14 - 13 Southbound this morning. Traffic is using hard shoulder, lane 1, and lane 2, with lane 3 on both sides coned off. I presume this means they will be replacing the central reservation barrier first? Hard shoulder already is continuous between these two junctions so I guess the only work on this side is to create the laybys.
I'm driving J14-16 tomorrow so will have a look at what's going on there.
I'm driving J14-16 tomorrow so will have a look at what's going on there.
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Speaking as someone who commutes the Barnsley-Wakefield section daily, there is nowhere near enough traffic, even at peak times, to justify an upgrade.EpicChef wrote: ↑Fri Jul 13, 2018 17:21They will smarten that too. Eventually we will have an entirely smart M1.
On an unrelated note, I've noticed the entry and exit sliproads to the junctions on that section are absolutely enormous, even the ones at Wooley Edge services, and there are several entire motorways in this country which are shorter than the south-facing slips at 37.
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The thing is it breaks up two smart motorway sections. It should be there for the continuity. The M1 should be a fully smart motorway.lefthandedspanner wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 14:09Speaking as someone who commutes the Barnsley-Wakefield section daily, there is nowhere near enough traffic, even at peak times, to justify an upgrade.
On an unrelated note, I've noticed the entry and exit sliproads to the junctions on that section are absolutely enormous, even the ones at Wooley Edge services, and there are several entire motorways in this country which are shorter than the south-facing slips at 37.
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The character (and traffic flows) of many motorways changes from section to section; the M1 is no exception.EpicChef wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 14:29The thing is it breaks up two smart motorway sections. It should be there for the continuity. The M1 should be a fully smart motorway.lefthandedspanner wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 14:09Speaking as someone who commutes the Barnsley-Wakefield section daily, there is nowhere near enough traffic, even at peak times, to justify an upgrade.
On an unrelated note, I've noticed the entry and exit sliproads to the junctions on that section are absolutely enormous, even the ones at Wooley Edge services, and there are several entire motorways in this country which are shorter than the south-facing slips at 37.
The Barnsley-Wakefield section is quiet and rural, with very widely-spaced junctions - variable speed limits would be completely unnecessary.
Also, just remembered the northernmost section (M621 to Hook Moor) has no VSL either, and is unlikely to get it any time soon, for much the same reason.
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No roadworks/traffic management on 14-16 yet. I'd forgotten that 15-16 already has a concrete barrier so should be less to do in that section.
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Any update on what's going on since before the lockdown?
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Quite agree. Whereas J42 to J41 southbound is now all lane running & still snarls up, probably due to weaving & could do with the extra spend. That's not forgetting, sorting out Lofthouse Interchange & J43.lefthandedspanner wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 15:14 The character (and traffic flows) of many motorways changes from section to section; the M1 is no exception.
The Barnsley-Wakefield section is quiet and rural, with very widely-spaced junctions - variable speed limits would be completely unnecessary.
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Not driven it since the beginning of March, but at that point J13 to just past NP services was a 60 limit and as far as I can tell the concrete barrier complete and hard shoulder continuous. Looks like just the refuge areas still to complete. North of NP services it is still a 50 limit and work is less advanced.
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Re: M1 J13-16 ALR smart motorway
Just has a look at junction 37 and the slips are indeed massive perhaps owing to the hilly nature of this section.lefthandedspanner wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 14:09Speaking as someone who commutes the Barnsley-Wakefield section daily, there is nowhere near enough traffic, even at peak times, to justify an upgrade.
On an unrelated note, I've noticed the entry and exit sliproads to the junctions on that section are absolutely enormous, even the ones at Wooley Edge services, and there are several entire motorways in this country which are shorter than the south-facing slips at 37.
Something I've also noticed is why anyone would use the footbridge here. It's a substantial structure that seems to serve no purpose at all given the more direct road bridge next to it to cross the motorway, any ideas?
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It connects a number of public footpaths that would have a longer diversion to use the road bridge. OSM shows them well - Google Maps is not very good for footpaths and other smaller rights of way.
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Any news on the scheme now? There is no update from HE.
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It's also a favourite spot for jumpers.Chris5156 wrote: ↑Wed May 13, 2020 19:47It connects a number of public footpaths that would have a longer diversion to use the road bridge. OSM shows them well - Google Maps is not very good for footpaths and other smaller rights of way.
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Sorry, despite living less than 5 miles from J14 I haven't driven on (or even over) the M1 since March 7th
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Have some variable speed limit legislation: https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2020/956/made
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Re: M1 J13-16 ALR smart motorway
Anyone have any news on how the project is progressing? The last update seemed quite vague, saying they plan to open junction 13 as ALR by the end of this year (? - Jct 13 to Jct what?) , and the "end date" on the website has been changed from "Spring 2022" to "2022-23".c2R wrote: ↑Tue Sep 08, 2020 14:45 Have some variable speed limit legislation: https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2020/956/made
Does anyone have anything more definitive?
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Re: M1 J13-16 ALR smart motorway
I've been along 13-14 a few times recently and it basically looks complete, so I can well imagine that 13-14 may open by the end of this year. 14-15 also seems pretty advance, the concrete central barrier is in place and looks like they are creating refuges.