Roundabout with railway in the middle

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Re: Roundabout with railway in the middle

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Bryn666 wrote: Sat Jan 05, 2019 19:35 Village Circle in Trafford Park was a recent example as the roundabout was built in the early 90s. It used to be a simple fork junction.

It will have trams crossing it from 2020 instead.
Yeah, they have changed the orientation of the crossing though for the new tram line as originally it looked like this....

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Again, it's disused for 25 years but we come quite close here on the Birkenhead Dock Branch: https://goo.gl/maps/GPiHczDjBq82
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KeithW wrote: Sun Jan 06, 2019 15:18
Big Nick wrote: Sun Jan 06, 2019 10:05 How about this bit of unused and unattached track under the A228 in Kent?
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.34247 ... a=!3m1!1e3
https://www.flickr.com/photos/89918055@N05/33872779566
What is baffling is why the line was not lifted as the whole shebang was abandoned decades before the roundabout was built.

Details of site here,
https://webapps.kent.gov.uk/KCC.Explori ... ke17107%27
I understand it was actually brand new track put down as part of the A228 improvement works around 2003. At the time there were plans by Lafarge Cement to reopen the quarry.
https://democracy.kent.gov.uk/Data/Plan ... nd.doc.pdf
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Across the Channel in France we can see the remains of the Aerotrain!

Part of the test track on a roundabout in Gometz-la-Ville: https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@48.67276 ... 384!8i8192

Sculpture on a roundabout at the other end: https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@48.66824 ... 384!8i8192

In the middle is a road named for the Aerotrain designer, Jean Bertin. https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Gom ... 4d2.126976

There are several kilometres of the track surviving today: https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@48.66330 ... 704!8i4352
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Another recent tram construction in Nottingham through NG2 Business Park
https://goo.gl/maps/agaH8CTpjCm
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Big Nick wrote: Sun Jan 06, 2019 22:52
KeithW wrote: Sun Jan 06, 2019 15:18
Big Nick wrote: Sun Jan 06, 2019 10:05 How about this bit of unused and unattached track under the A228 in Kent?
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.34247 ... a=!3m1!1e3
https://www.flickr.com/photos/89918055@N05/33872779566
What is baffling is why the line was not lifted as the whole shebang was abandoned decades before the roundabout was built.

Details of site here,
https://webapps.kent.gov.uk/KCC.Explori ... ke17107%27
I understand it was actually brand new track put down as part of the A228 improvement works around 2003. At the time there were plans by Lafarge Cement to reopen the quarry.
https://democracy.kent.gov.uk/Data/Plan ... nd.doc.pdf
Yep. The roundabout and the track were built at the same time. For many years both the roundabout - which had no (connected) exits - and the track must have seemed complete mysteries. It only took about 10 years to build the bridge over the nearby river Medway to connect to the (still under construction) new village on the far side, for the roundabout to be explained. The railway line remains an enigma.
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Big Nick wrote: Sun Jan 06, 2019 23:07 Across the Channel in France we can see the remains of the Aerotrain!

Part of the test track on a roundabout in Gometz-la-Ville: https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@48.67276 ... 384!8i8192

Sculpture on a roundabout at the other end: https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@48.66824 ... 384!8i8192

In the middle is a road named for the Aerotrain designer, Jean Bertin. https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Gom ... 4d2.126976

There are several kilometres of the track surviving today: https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@48.66330 ... 704!8i4352
There's still some evidence of its UK counterpart too, the vehicle and shed still exists and you can sort of follow the test track route.
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ajuk wrote: Mon Jan 07, 2019 11:33Hayle
Ahem..... - See Page 1
A30 /B3301 junction at Hayle.

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Glenn A wrote: Sun Jan 06, 2019 17:12
Big L wrote: Sun Jan 06, 2019 15:28 I was wondering about the Weymouth harbour tramway, but this near miss seems to be the closest thing.
The train used to have a bell to warn road users it was approaching.
As well as travelling at snail's pace and flagmen walking in front of it because, despite road markings clearly showing the clearance, idiots still used to park in places whuch obstructed the train's passage. Seeing two or three burly blokes bouncing parked cars out of the way was not uncommon.

https://youtu.be/x6XEVvVRB_4 (forward to 2.06, 4.18 et seq)
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The Balloch branch runs over this strange roundabout-like layout on the B857 in Alexandria:

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@55.98437 ... 312!8i6656
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This roundabout still has tram lines through the middle, 55 years after the tramway closed:

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.41809 ... 312!8i6656
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Can't believe no one has mentioned Bracknell which has two

The Twin Bridges Roundabout and the Station Roundabout
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Big L wrote: Sat Jan 05, 2019 18:31 There must be dozens of roundabouts with railways crossing above or below.
Kenilworth
Leamington - although this is no longer a roundabout the road layout is much the same as when it was.
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Re: Roundabout with railway in the middle

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Johnathan404 wrote: Sun Jan 06, 2019 15:17
Steven wrote: Sun Jan 06, 2019 14:45
Glenn A wrote: Sun Jan 06, 2019 11:44 The roundabout at Catterick Garrison is unique in that the railway went across, rather than above or under, and traffic had to stop when a train was coming. I'd imagine, though, the trains were probably moving very slowly for safety reasons.
It's not unique as some of the posts on this thread show.
In fact here's a screenshot of the one I referred to.
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Its still on old Streetview captures

The Luas Red line crossed three sliproads, but not the mainline of, the Red Cow Roundabount (the N7/M50 junction) until the junction rebuild, where it was grade seperated. Its on the 2005 aerial photography on map.geohive.ie but I cannot make it give me a deep link.
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Cian wrote: Tue Jan 08, 2019 16:23 Its still on old Streetview captures
As is a neat shot of the East-link open 8-)

(it's less neat when you're stuck in the queue)
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Until the 1980s there was a small roundabout here [gmap]https://goo.gl/maps/WSXQp475KKH2[/gmap]. The road had been resurfaced but across the roundabout there were tracks left over from a spur to the gas works. It appears the last load went across in 1969.
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Re: Roundabout with railway in the middle

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There is a relatively new one on the A7 at Eskbank:

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@55.87681 ... 384!8i8192

I hope the central pier is passively safe! :o
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22inarow wrote: Wed Jan 09, 2019 08:43 There is a relatively new one on the A7 at Eskbank:

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@55.87681 ... 384!8i8192

I hope the central pier is passively safe! :o
I wonder whether a potential revival of the Borders Railway was taken into account at the time of the Eskbank bypass construction to allow any potential railway to easily pass over the roundabout.
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