Chancellor to outline £25bn road upgrade projects

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As mentioned before, the A64 between Malton and Scarborough is on the whole no busier than the A169 to Pickering. Road numbers and green lines are misleading in this respect.
NICK 647063 wrote: Sun Sep 20, 2020 11:09
Although, the congestion is worse on the York-Malton section as a solid portion of the holiday traffic heads off on to the A169 towards Whitby or the Moors.

For that reason I would argue fully dualing the York-Malton section is much more necessary than dualing or adding bypasses to the Malton-Seamer section.
That’s pretty much what’s proposed, get the worst section sorted then plan the section east of Malton
Maybe local politicians would like this, but the only relevant HE proposal is called "A64 Hopgrove", which is hardly suggestive of a proposal to dual to Malton, far less beyond. At most it will dual to Barton-le-Willows, and it is not a committed scheme, though it is in the RIS3 pipeline.
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Glenn A wrote: Sat Sep 19, 2020 13:33 Dualling the remaining sections of the A64 between York and Scarborough and by passing the remaining settlements along this road should be a priority. The road is very busy in the summer and tractors and slow moving lorries can cause huge tailbacks.
Agreed, and you could argue that the Seamer bypass should also be dualled with the dual carriageway running to the roundabout north of Crossgates.
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jackal wrote: Fri Sep 18, 2020 11:04 Not really any updates. There is a longstanding campaign to make the junctions at Wilberfoss roundabouts so I imagine the new junction will be one of these.
You could argue for a roundabout at the west junction given that it is effectively a crossroads as traffic from Newton Upon Derwent also joins the A1079 at that point and a roundabout at this point would be a sensible start for any new stretch of dual carriageway.

How far to the east of Wilberfoss is the proposed dual carriageway intended to go?
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^ I'd guess there'd be a roundabout where you suggest and the junction east of there LILOed or blocked up.
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As mentioned before, the A64 between Malton and Scarborough is on the whole no busier than the A169 to Pickering. Road numbers and green lines are misleading in this respect.
Well it is actually to explain Rilling east of Malton is running at 16K and then after the B1258 looses 5k meaning after the B1258 Junction the A64 is about 11k like the A169, the difference is not many avoid the A169 whereas the A64 is avoided around York with many taking the back roads, if the York to Malton section was dualled traffic east of Malton would increase significantly, any A64 dualling would not only improve the A64 but get traffic off local roads back onto the trunk road network.
Maybe local politicians would like this, but the only relevant HE proposal is called "A64 Hopgrove", which is hardly suggestive of a proposal to dual to Malton, far less beyond. At most it will dual to Barton-le-Willows, and it is not a committed scheme, though it is in the RIS3 pipeline.
The A64 Hopgrove was originally just the roundabout GSJ but then after a study it was found the issue which was obvious to us who know the road was the single carriageway east, this was down for RIS2 but of course now slipped as usual further back, it was Hopgrove to Barton leaving 3 miles of S2 which TFN have listed as an ambition to have upgraded as soon as possible, the fact this has been ongoing all my life is crazy, it’s simply 8 miles of upgrading to fill in the gaps on these sections and it would make a huge difference.
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Article about the M4 to Dorset Coast strategic study: https://www.transportxtra.com/publicati ... d-upgrade/
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jackal wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 14:48 Article about the M4 to Dorset Coast strategic study: https://www.transportxtra.com/publicati ... d-upgrade/
My view in March was that "This is Wiltshire, who have development ambitions along the A350 corridor in the Large Local Majors or MRN, (M4 J17, Melksham Bypass, further dualling at Chippenham) still being upset at the binning of the Westbury Bypass. IMV they seem to want to use this axis as a way to move traffic away from Salisbury but Dorset have no ambitions for the southern A350 so it is probably a dead duck south of Warminster."

I see little if any renewed enthusiasm from Dorset.
Backing up a few more years, the Newbury Bypass POPE discerned that regional/strategic traffic had transferred to the A34 from the A350 corridor so I doubt the economics of a regional corridor. My prediction is still a few local improvements in Wiltshire and leave Dorset alone so we can enjoy the old Shaftesbury High road in peace.
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Not sure if this was posted last November but the budget of £3.5bn funding Large Local Majors and the MRN appears to have been scaled back to around £1.5bn according to this article: https://www.highwaysmagazine.co.uk/Excl ... lions/8715
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