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qwertyK wrote: Sun Apr 26, 2020 11:19 On the footpath that goes from the top of Chelmsford Rd to the other side of the A12, I ended up crossing using the Hall Lane Bridge just to see what was on the other end. There are footpath signs on the other side, but there was a river, but the bridge across it had collapsed. So clearly has not been used in some time.
You wouldn't know a footpath exists there from looking at the bushes on Chelmsford Road. The only clue is the milestone/OS marker block by the bus stop or possibly a short post further up the road. It looks like there is a ditch on that side of the A12 too.
If there ever was a good place to stop up or divert a footpath, this is one. It's a question of cost and not outraging the local walkers who haven't used the path in years (a bit like local pubs :wink: )
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Big Nick wrote: Sun Apr 26, 2020 13:00
qwertyK wrote: Sun Apr 26, 2020 11:19 On the footpath that goes from the top of Chelmsford Rd to the other side of the A12, I ended up crossing using the Hall Lane Bridge just to see what was on the other end. There are footpath signs on the other side, but there was a river, but the bridge across it had collapsed. So clearly has not been used in some time.
You wouldn't know a footpath exists there from looking at the bushes on Chelmsford Road. The only clue is the milestone/OS marker block by the bus stop or possibly a short post further up the road. It looks like there is a ditch on that side of the A12 too.
If there ever was a good place to stop up or divert a footpath, this is one. It's a question of cost and not outraging the local walkers who haven't used the path in years (a bit like local pubs :wink: )
Yeah, I went down from the Chelmsford Rd the other week and saw the central reservation was altered to allow a crossing. On the other side, as I said, the bridge that crosses the river (larger than I anticipated), was collapsed, and all overgrown.

I don't know why its still on footpath websites, I don't know if anyone has ever even used it, at least, not since the bypass was built. It's practically pointless on the Chelmsford Rd side as its literally just a few steps before you're on the A12.
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Has anyone mentioned where the Peddars Way crosses the A11 northeast of Thetford? I cycled this two weeks ago (the PW, not the A11!).
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agc2070 wrote:Has anyone mentioned where the Peddars Way crosses the A11 northeast of Thetford? I cycled this two weeks ago (the PW, not the A11!).
I did earlier up, but much like many of these I've never seen anyone use them. I certainly wouldn't fancy it on that bit of the A11!
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rhyds wrote: Fri Apr 03, 2020 16:26 The A14 has a fair few footpath crossings along its length with but a central reservation gap and a couple of warning signs. IIRC this was part of the reason that Catthorpe to J1 couldn't become a motorway.
Including this one less than a mile from the M6.
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Burwellian wrote: Fri Aug 07, 2020 22:57
rhyds wrote: Fri Apr 03, 2020 16:26 The A14 has a fair few footpath crossings along its length with but a central reservation gap and a couple of warning signs. IIRC this was part of the reason that Catthorpe to J1 couldn't become a motorway.
Including this one less than a mile from the M6.
That one has been closed, though. Pedestrians going that way are now directed onto a nearby bridleway, which crosses underneath the A14 using a bridge. (You can't see it well from the road; this is the best view I could find of it.)
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Thread revival..

There is a foot crossing here https://www.google.com/maps/@53.3293298 ... 312!8i6656 at Daresbury along the A56 which is NSL.
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Rambo wrote: Sat May 29, 2021 13:11 Thread revival..

There is a foot crossing here https://www.google.com/maps/@53.3293298 ... 312!8i6656 at Daresbury along the A56 which is NSL.
And it's fairly recent too. According to street view it appeared between 2012 and 2018.
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Truvelo wrote: Sat May 29, 2021 21:57
Rambo wrote: Sat May 29, 2021 13:11 Thread revival..

There is a foot crossing here https://www.google.com/maps/@53.3293298 ... 312!8i6656 at Daresbury along the A56 which is NSL.
And it's fairly recent too. According to street view it appeared between 2012 and 2018.
Looks like it was moved back when the approach to the roundabout was widened to three lanes, so that the crossing was still only 2 lanes wide. Not entirely sure why they could incorporate a traffic light controlled crossing into the lights at the roundabout, epically since there is no pedestrian accesses off the A56 between Red Brow Lane and the roundabout.
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jervi wrote: Sat May 29, 2021 23:04
Truvelo wrote: Sat May 29, 2021 21:57
Rambo wrote: Sat May 29, 2021 13:11 Thread revival..

There is a foot crossing here https://www.google.com/maps/@53.3293298 ... 312!8i6656 at Daresbury along the A56 which is NSL.
And it's fairly recent too. According to street view it appeared between 2012 and 2018.
Looks like it was moved back when the approach to the roundabout was widened to three lanes, so that the crossing was still only 2 lanes wide. Not entirely sure why they could incorporate a traffic light controlled crossing into the lights at the roundabout, epically since there is no pedestrian accesses off the A56 between Red Brow Lane and the roundabout.
And the crossing nearer the roundabout doesn't look original either as the kerbing is a lot newer.
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Another one. This time a proper footpath crossing the A49 on a bend which is NSL. https://www.google.com/maps/@53.2622399 ... 384!8i8192
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Rambo wrote: Sun May 30, 2021 09:57 Another one. This time a proper footpath crossing the A49 on a bend which is NSL. https://www.google.com/maps/@53.2622399 ... 384!8i8192
Looking at the thing it hardly seems to be heavily used, more like unused in fact.
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Rambo wrote: Sat May 29, 2021 13:11 Thread revival..

There is a foot crossing here https://www.google.com/maps/@53.3293298 ... 312!8i6656 at Daresbury along the A56 which is NSL.
There's another one towards Warrington that doesn't feature any handrails or even a marked place to wait on the central reservation https://www.google.com/maps/@53.3392826 ... 384!8i8192
You need your wits about you using it. Even further north where you can turn right into the village there's a TL controlled crossing which I've never seen anyone using. So in about a mile you've three different examples of how to do. The TL controlled one is in some ways the most concerning because regular users of the road don't take a deal of notice of the 40mph limit and having never seen it go to red will have got complacent about it. There are a couple of similar examples near me where I prefer to wait for a big enough gap to walk across rather than trust drivers to stop on the red.
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KeithW wrote: Sun May 30, 2021 11:01
Rambo wrote: Sun May 30, 2021 09:57 Another one. This time a proper footpath crossing the A49 on a bend which is NSL. https://www.google.com/maps/@53.2622399 ... 384!8i8192
Looking at the thing it hardly seems to be heavily used, more like unused in fact.
I agree it doesn't look used much. At least looking south here you have a straight line of sight towards Weaverham roundabout even if north is obscured by the bend.
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The A56 between the end of the M66 at Edenfield and the M65 junction 8 has plenty of foot crossings including at least 3 on the A682 spur into Rawtenstall. There is also a rather precarious cycle lane southbound between the A682 spur and the A56 mainline.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/RzqQktcLR7seMunR7
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Last year I walked across this one a couple of times. It is on the A505 near the start of the Baldock bypass:

https://www.google.com/maps/@51.964931, ... 384!8i8192
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trickstat wrote: Mon May 31, 2021 12:53 Last year I walked across this one a couple of times. It is on the A505 near the start of the Baldock bypass:

https://www.google.com/maps/@51.964931, ... 384!8i8192
Given their depth back from the carriageway and construction with fences I'd say those are attempts at corrals for horses (the route seems to be signed as a bridleway). Be interesting to get the view of any equestrians who may be on this board as to its usability and safety - although I think we all know what the answers would be. :shock:
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Debaser wrote: Mon May 31, 2021 13:15
trickstat wrote: Mon May 31, 2021 12:53 Last year I walked across this one a couple of times. It is on the A505 near the start of the Baldock bypass:

https://www.google.com/maps/@51.964931, ... 384!8i8192
Given their depth back from the carriageway and construction with fences I'd say those are attempts at corrals for horses (the route seems to be signed as a bridleway). Be interesting to get the view of any equestrians who may be on this board as to its usability and safety - although I think we all know what the answers would be. :shock:
The small sign at the side of the road does indeed say "Public Bridleway". I can't imagine many horse riders choose that route.
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Chris5156 wrote: Mon May 31, 2021 14:29
Debaser wrote: Mon May 31, 2021 13:15
trickstat wrote: Mon May 31, 2021 12:53 Last year I walked across this one a couple of times. It is on the A505 near the start of the Baldock bypass:

https://www.google.com/maps/@51.964931, ... 384!8i8192
Given their depth back from the carriageway and construction with fences I'd say those are attempts at corrals for horses (the route seems to be signed as a bridleway). Be interesting to get the view of any equestrians who may be on this board as to its usability and safety - although I think we all know what the answers would be. :shock:
The small sign at the side of the road does indeed say "Public Bridleway". I can't imagine many horse riders choose that route.
I think you're right there! The route goes up the left side of this field:

https://www.google.com/maps/@51.9650922 ... 384!8i8192

before crossing the a part of the field in which wheat was growing last year (the path was fairly clearly defined but doesn't really look like a bridleway).
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At least 4 on the A19 in County Durham, not a road I'd like to cross:
https://goo.gl/maps/nURiVwv9iJaWFQat7
https://goo.gl/maps/wqAB8NoGrkSJDnhX6
https://goo.gl/maps/igWv9pz8Czwxy6kj7
https://goo.gl/maps/ENqMAD2vww42NXXG8

There's one on the A689 at Sedgefield aswell:
https://goo.gl/maps/o7D1nmE3EWAqKHPN7

Plus the A690:
https://goo.gl/maps/k9rXJcgMjeY5qNek8
Debaser wrote: Sat Apr 04, 2020 15:28
KeithW wrote: Sat Apr 04, 2020 15:06 ...In that part of Coulby Newham most footways and shared use routes are actually grade separated for NMU's

This is how pedestrians and cyclists from that primary school cross Stainton Way.
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@54.52146 ... 8192?hl=en
Impressive. Shows what we can do (or could do - past tense) with a little thought and planning. NMU routes apparently more direct and shorter than the highways - that's a start on how to get people to shift modes.

Unfortunately unlikely to be seen again, unless local authorities take up house building and can specify this sort of infrastructure.
I know this was posted awhile back but Cramlington has it's own little cycle / path network running around the whole town.

https://goo.gl/maps/TKiydo83dVimHHf49 - See part of there, if you follow it around can see where it goes pretty much covers all of Cramlington and doesn't cross any roads at all with all being grade seperated. It even has a crossing over the ECML
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