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Re: Traffic in Bristol

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Shame the A4232 was never finished as intended. I used it a couple of years ago. Instead of coming off the M4 to via the A48(M) I carried on to the west and getting to Cardiff that was was quite simple. I went out via the A4232 towards the A48 and it’s a collection of back industrial roads and half finished futureproofed sections of what ought to have been the rest Cardiff Bay Link Road.

A recent but that was completed was a bit of dualling. Typically, completely ignoring the future proofing for GSJs left behind in the 80s the junctions are at grade signal controlled gyratories - lack of thinking ahead towards completing the whole lot.
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There are grade-seperated junctions in the area, some of them are notably single carriageway GSJ's notably on either side of the roundabout where the A4174 now ends at.

Keep in mind that Hengrove Roundabout should have been GSJ'ed, but with the close proximity of the nearby GSJ junction serving Imperial Park....
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JackieRoads wrote: Mon May 31, 2021 12:10 Keep in mind that Hengrove Roundabout should have been GSJ'ed, but with the close proximity of the nearby GSJ junction serving Imperial Park....
Hengrove would have looked something like this. There would be no weaving problems with such a layout.

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Truvelo also did the other part, near the start of the A4174 - the improvements surrounding Frenchay Interchange though.
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JackieRoads wrote: Mon May 31, 2021 19:13 Truvelo also did the other part, near the start of the A4174 - the improvements surrounding Frenchay Interchange though.
Half way between Hengrove and Frenchay would have been this junction.
How would you like your grade separations, Sir?
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From the SABRE Wiki: Bryants Hill Interchange :

Bryants Hill Interchange was a planned junction along the earlier proposed route for the A4174 Ring Road. The eastern side of the Ring Road was originally planned to run closer in to the city and it would have crossed the A431 almost a mile further west than where it was eventually built.

The junction would have been a grade separated roundabout and two layouts are known. One has the grade separation favouring the A4174 and the other favours the A431. The most detailed plans are

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Herned wrote: Fri May 28, 2021 23:35
KeithW wrote: Fri May 28, 2021 22:37 It was a perfectly convenient location when it was built. It is the poorly controlled growth since the mid 19th century that is the problem.
No other major British city has a station quite so far out.
Sheffield...?
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chaseracer wrote: Mon May 31, 2021 22:39 Sheffield...?
No, everywhere that could be called the City Centre is closer to the station in Sheffield. Bristol Temple Meads is about 3/4 of a mile from the city centre, in Sheffield that would almost be to the A61
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Great, great. More traffic, this time in the north, because it's between the M5/M49 junction and the M4/M5 4-level stack, but there's also more right by the M32, also reported more traffic further up the A37.
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Truvelo wrote: Mon May 31, 2021 20:45
JackieRoads wrote: Mon May 31, 2021 19:13 Truvelo also did the other part, near the start of the A4174 - the improvements surrounding Frenchay Interchange though.
Half way between Hengrove and Frenchay would have been this junction.
I made a fantasy interchange for Hambrook as part of a motorway upgrade/completion of the A4174 which would cut the corner between the M4 and M5, avoiding Almondsbury.

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From the SABRE Wiki: Bryants Hill Interchange :

Bryants Hill Interchange was a planned junction along the earlier proposed route for the A4174 Ring Road. The eastern side of the Ring Road was originally planned to run closer in to the city and it would have crossed the A431 almost a mile further west than where it was eventually built.

The junction would have been a grade separated roundabout and two layouts are known. One has the grade separation favouring the A4174 and the other favours the A431. The most detailed plans are

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Debaser wrote: Fri May 28, 2021 14:01 such that what may initially pass for a garage actually becomes the overspill storage area - because that's what consumers want.
Increasingly it becomes the second reception room, or a utility room, or an extension to the cupboard known as the kitchen - because that is what peeps need!

Then peeps have a problem with nowhere to put the car(s), as the roads are so narrow, [rightly] preventing street parking.
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Re: Traffic in Bristol

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No mentioned in this thread, is Bristol's plans for a Clean Air Zone

https://thebristolcable.org/2021/01/bri ... -kye-dudd/

I have some sympathy with the idea, although this appears to be yet more stick with no carrot - personally, I also think the primary routes should not be included, as this "encourages" rat running around the edges.
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Also mentioned here

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Herned wrote: Tue Jun 01, 2021 10:03
chaseracer wrote: Mon May 31, 2021 22:39 Sheffield...?
No, everywhere that could be called the City Centre is closer to the station in Sheffield. Bristol Temple Meads is about 3/4 of a mile from the city centre, in Sheffield that would almost be to the A61
Strictly Sheffield station is undoubtedly outside the A61 inner ring road. But Sheffield station to town hall is only 0.4 miles where Bristol Temple Meads to Broadmead is 1.0 miles and Cambridge station to market square is 1.2 miles. Cheltenham station to Regent Arcade is 1.4 miles but isn't a city.
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