A284 Lyminster Bypass

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A284 Lyminster Bypass

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I saw this government announcement and thought hey a nice new by pass.

Then when I did some digging as with nearly all these schemes, half is being built by Persimmon and is therefore just a glorified new estate road!

The WSCC page, really confirms it.

It's like the new A272 north eastern by pass of Billinghurst, which is nothing like a bypass but a road passing through a new housing estate with a 30mph limit.

It is so sad how infrastructure by local authorities is going these days.
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The Lyminster Bypass is absolutely minimum effort that could be made. Ideally it should be dualled all the way to Crossbush and have a dedicated cycle way (it will have a 3m shared space), however its single and improvements fall short of the Crossbush Junction, which means that the cycle way just stops and rejoins the old A284 S2, so that will put a lot of people off of cycling between Arundel and the coast.

https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/ ... l_on_the_l
This FoI says that the suggested AADT for 2034 without the Arundel Bypass is 20,862 and potentially around 30,000 with the Arundel Bypass. It will be interesting to see how a S2 will cope with those numbers!

At least there is a Pegasus & toucan crossing for the bridleway as well as a bridge now over the railway.
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' The proposed bypass will be a 7.3m wide single dual carriageway with verge on one side and a shared footway/cycleway facility on the other.'

What is a single dual carriageway? It doesn't seem as bad as some pretend bypasses. Only 1 intermediate rbt and a bypassed level crossing. Not sure about the top junction near Crossbush though. Is it just a T junction or signal controlled? T junction is enough as there is no need for a right turn south when there are existing alternatives. The next door Angmering bypass illustrates this perfectly with just such an arrangement at the north end.
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SteveA30 wrote: Mon Jun 07, 2021 17:29 ' The proposed bypass will be a 7.3m wide single dual carriageway with verge on one side and a shared footway/cycleway facility on the other.'

What is a single dual carriageway? It doesn't seem as bad as some pretend bypasses. Only 1 intermediate rbt and a bypassed level crossing. Not sure about the top junction near Crossbush though. Is it just a T junction or signal controlled? T junction is enough as there is no need for a right turn south when there are existing alternatives. The next door Angmering bypass illustrates this perfectly with just such an arrangement at the north end.
The famous single dual carriageway, I suspect they meant two-lane single carriageway but some intern was writing the page.
Tie in on the northern end is a priority junction.
The A284 bypass is being delivered as two projects, the council lead one which is the one in the announcement which is from the roundabout, to near the A27, while the southern part is developer lead and runs from the new northern roundabout, over the railway, past a new roundabout on the A259 (which is also currently being duelled) all the way to the B2187.

There is a fly through video of the northern section here which does feature ducks.
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A303Chris wrote: Mon Jun 07, 2021 09:32 I saw this government announcement and thought hey a nice new by pass.

Then when I did some digging as with nearly all these schemes, half is being built by Persimmon and is therefore just a glorified new estate road!

The WSCC page, really confirms it.

It's like the new A272 north eastern by pass of Billinghurst, which is nothing like a bypass but a road passing through a new housing estate with a 30mph limit.

It is so sad how infrastructure by local authorities is going these days.
Local authorities don't have much choice!

As I have pointed out many times before the whole planning process has been rigged by the WESTMINSTER GOVERNMENT to favour their developer mates over local authorities.

Moreover local authorities are under incredible financial pressure and as such have to direct their budgets to things they are LEGALLY required to provide like Children's services, adult social care, trading standards, etc. Providing new roads is very much a discretionary activity which can only be afforded by trying to latch onto developer schemes to ease the cost.

If you don't like it then you need to complain to your MP or the Governing party at Westminster who have hamstrung local authorities in this way by not funding them properly while indulging their business mates.
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An update on the Lyminster Bypass.
The section of the future A284 south of the A259 Known as "Fitzalan Road" opened early last year. I cycled along it in the summer to take a look and it strangely is a rural clearway with a 40mph limit. The speed limit seems right, but a rural clearway on a S2 in an urban area just seems wrong. The whole length of that has a shared cycle/footway which is about 4-5m wide, so no complaints from me.

The section North of the A259 roundabout and the intermediate roundabout opened in the summer of this year and is available to view on google street view. It has a shared cycle/footway along it, although a little narrower. This includes a new bridge over the railway & estate road.

The section between the intermediate roundabout and the Northern end of the scheme near to the A27 started construction this week. https://www.westsussex.gov.uk/news/lymi ... on-starts/
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