Road Investment Strategy 3 (RIS3) Pipeline Schemes - December 2021 Report

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New report published yesterday showing confirmed RIS3 pipeline schemes, a few we already knew and a few accelerated to start and compete earlier;

The North
  • A19 North of Newcastle Junctions
  • A64 Hopgrove
  • M1 Leeds Eastern Gateway
  • M1/M62 Lofthouse Interchange
  • M6 Junctions 19-21A Knutsford to Croft extra capacity
  • M1 Junctions 35A-39 Sheffield to Wakefield extra capacity
  • A1 Doncaster to Darrington
  • M6 Junction 22 Manchester South East Junction improvements
The Midlands
  • M6 Junction 15 Potteries Southern Access
  • A483 Pant-Llanymynech Bypass (in cooperation with the Welsh Government)
  • M1 North Leicestershire extra capacity
  • M1 Leicester Western Access
  • A5 Hinckley to Tamworth
The East
  • A47/A1101 Elm Road Junction
  • A11 Fiveways Junction
  • M11 Junction 13 Cambridge West
  • A12/A14 Copdock Interchange
  • A120 Braintree to A12
  • A404/M40 Junction 4 High Wycombe
  • Tilbury Link Road
The South and West
  • Severn Resilience Package
  • A404 Bisham Junction
  • A2 Brenley Corner
  • A303 Phase 2 upgrade
  • A3/A247 Ripley South
  • A2 Dover Access
  • A27 Lewes to Polegate
  • A27 Chichester improvements
  • M27 Southampton Access
  • A38 Trerulefoot-Carkeel safety package
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mbeatts wrote: Thu Dec 02, 2021 11:26
  • M6 Junction 22 Manchester South East Junction improvements
This doesn't make sense, as M6 J22 is west of Manchester.
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I take it "extra capacity" is a replacement for probably-terminal Smart Motorways brand?
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Is M6 Jn 15 Southern Access just another spatchcock, or something really useful ?
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c2R wrote: Thu Dec 02, 2021 11:36
mbeatts wrote: Thu Dec 02, 2021 11:26
  • M6 Junction 22 Manchester South East Junction improvements
This doesn't make sense, as M6 J22 is west of Manchester.
Shh, looking at the map and working out where Manchester is forms next year's study.
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Bryn666 wrote: Thu Dec 02, 2021 12:14
c2R wrote: Thu Dec 02, 2021 11:36

This doesn't make sense, as M6 J22 is west of Manchester.
Shh, looking at the map and working out where Manchester is forms next year's study.
Well its North of Watford so who cares :)
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Bryn666 wrote: Thu Dec 02, 2021 12:14
c2R wrote: Thu Dec 02, 2021 11:36
mbeatts wrote: Thu Dec 02, 2021 11:26
  • M6 Junction 22 Manchester South East Junction improvements
This doesn't make sense, as M6 J22 is west of Manchester.
Shh, looking at the map and working out where Manchester is forms next year's study.
I thought that perhaps it is the main junction for traffic leaving the M6 to get to SE Manchester. However, having looked at a map, it is an unlikely option for both northbound and southbound traffic.
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mbeatts wrote: Thu Dec 02, 2021 11:26 New report published yesterday showing confirmed RIS3 pipeline schemes, a few we already knew and a few accelerated to start and compete earlier;
The North
  • A19 North of Newcastle Junctions
  • A64 Hopgrove
  • M1 Leeds Eastern Gateway
  • M1/M62 Lofthouse Interchange
  • M6 Junctions 19-21A Knutsford to Croft extra capacity
  • A1 Doncaster to Darrington
:thumbsup: Very sensible. All long overdue.
  • M1 Junctions 35A-39 Sheffield to Wakefield extra capacity
:confused: Much less expected. Traffic is notably less than north from 39 or south from 35A. "Extra capacity" rather than "widening" presumably means smartification and hard shoulder removal so seems a surprising priority right now.
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I'll admit I don't daily drive it, but I'm not convinced there's a massive pressing need for "M1 North Leicestershire extra capacity". Northbound J23 to J24a can get a bit gnarly at peak times but most of the time that's as a result of accidents/breakdowns, without them it doesn't appear (anecdotally at least) to be a regular bottleneck, especially compared to other locations on the network. There are plenty of other situations in the Midlands that I think should be usurping this.
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trickstat wrote: Thu Dec 02, 2021 12:53
Bryn666 wrote: Thu Dec 02, 2021 12:14
c2R wrote: Thu Dec 02, 2021 11:36

This doesn't make sense, as M6 J22 is west of Manchester.
Shh, looking at the map and working out where Manchester is forms next year's study.
I thought that perhaps it is the main junction for traffic leaving the M6 to get to SE Manchester. However, having looked at a map, it is an unlikely option for both northbound and southbound traffic.
It's not exactly ideal for SW Manchester either.
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mbeatts wrote: Thu Dec 02, 2021 11:26 The Midlands
  • A483 Pant-Llanymynech Bypass (in cooperation with the Welsh Government)
Nice to see England catching up with this project at last! :laugh:

I'm guessing the announcement has something to do with the A5/A483 junction works at Oswestry, or that the contractors working on that job can give a discount on the Llanymynech job due to its close proximity. I am probably wrong mind.
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Chris Bertram wrote: Thu Dec 02, 2021 13:27
trickstat wrote: Thu Dec 02, 2021 12:53
Bryn666 wrote: Thu Dec 02, 2021 12:14
Shh, looking at the map and working out where Manchester is forms next year's study.
I thought that perhaps it is the main junction for traffic leaving the M6 to get to SE Manchester. However, having looked at a map, it is an unlikely option for both northbound and southbound traffic.
It's not exactly ideal for SW Manchester either.
What we should all note is that is J22 is proposed for mega development as it used to be a mine site and it's now giant brownfield. It has nothing to do with access to Manchester and everything to do with that.
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mbeatts wrote: Thu Dec 02, 2021 11:26
  • A3/A247 Ripley South
The repercussions of the Wisley Interchange already being considered?

Nope... local plan aspirations aka development - probably link
Opportunities have also been identified to the north of Guildford for including enhanced capacity of truck laybys at Ripley and the introduction of north-facing slips at the
A3/A247 at Ripley to support local plan aspirations and relieve some pressure on local roads accessing the A3 at Guildford.
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Bryn666 wrote: Thu Dec 02, 2021 13:46
Chris Bertram wrote: Thu Dec 02, 2021 13:27
trickstat wrote: Thu Dec 02, 2021 12:53
I thought that perhaps it is the main junction for traffic leaving the M6 to get to SE Manchester. However, having looked at a map, it is an unlikely option for both northbound and southbound traffic.
It's not exactly ideal for SW Manchester either.
What we should all note is that is J22 is proposed for mega development as it used to be a mine site and it's now giant brownfield. It has nothing to do with access to Manchester and everything to do with that.
That sounds like a candidate for all sorts of logistics sheds!
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mbeatts wrote: Thu Dec 02, 2021 11:26 New report published yesterday showing confirmed RIS3 pipeline schemes, a few we already knew and a few accelerated to start and compete earlier;
Is this report going to be online?
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wrinkly wrote: Thu Dec 02, 2021 14:07
mbeatts wrote: Thu Dec 02, 2021 11:26 New report published yesterday showing confirmed RIS3 pipeline schemes, a few we already knew and a few accelerated to start and compete earlier;
Is this report going to be online?
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... rategy.pdf
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c2R wrote: Thu Dec 02, 2021 14:03
Bryn666 wrote: Thu Dec 02, 2021 13:46
Chris Bertram wrote: Thu Dec 02, 2021 13:27 It's not exactly ideal for SW Manchester either.
What we should all note is that is J22 is proposed for mega development as it used to be a mine site and it's now giant brownfield. It has nothing to do with access to Manchester and everything to do with that.
That sounds like a candidate for all sorts of logistics sheds!
https://www.langtreepp.co.uk/developmen ... -colliery/ gives a flavour of what's planned.
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the cheesecake man wrote: Thu Dec 02, 2021 13:09
mbeatts wrote: Thu Dec 02, 2021 11:26 New report published yesterday showing confirmed RIS3 pipeline schemes, a few we already knew and a few accelerated to start and compete earlier;
The North
  • A19 North of Newcastle Junctions
  • A64 Hopgrove
  • M1 Leeds Eastern Gateway
  • M1/M62 Lofthouse Interchange
  • M6 Junctions 19-21A Knutsford to Croft extra capacity
  • A1 Doncaster to Darrington
:thumbsup: Very sensible. All long overdue.
  • M1 Junctions 35A-39 Sheffield to Wakefield extra capacity
:confused: Much less expected. Traffic is notably less than north from 39 or south from 35A. "Extra capacity" rather than "widening" presumably means smartification and hard shoulder removal so seems a surprising priority right now.

Well I think the M1 J35a to J39 is simply about pretty much getting the whole M1 to smart motorway 🙄 it seems daft when it’s not a major issue and surely the A1 improvements will reduce traffic further!

A64 Hopgrove finally seems to be not listed as Junction improvement as all the options are now full dualling which is much needed!
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mbeatts wrote: Thu Dec 02, 2021 11:26 New report published yesterday showing confirmed RIS3 pipeline schemes, a few we already knew and a few accelerated to start and compete earlier;

The North
  • A19 North of Newcastle Junctions
  • A64 Hopgrove
  • M1 Leeds Eastern Gateway
  • M1/M62 Lofthouse Interchange
  • M6 Junctions 19-21A Knutsford to Croft extra capacity
  • M1 Junctions 35A-39 Sheffield to Wakefield extra capacity
  • A1 Doncaster to Darrington
  • M6 Junction 22 Manchester South East Junction improvements
The Midlands
  • M6 Junction 15 Potteries Southern Access
  • A483 Pant-Llanymynech Bypass (in cooperation with the Welsh Government)
  • M1 North Leicestershire extra capacity
  • M1 Leicester Western Access
  • A5 Hinckley to Tamworth
The East
  • A47/A1101 Elm Road Junction
  • A11 Fiveways Junction
  • M11 Junction 13 Cambridge West
  • A12/A14 Copdock Interchange
  • A120 Braintree to A12
  • A404/M40 Junction 4 High Wycombe
  • Tilbury Link Road
The South and West
  • Severn Resilience Package
  • A404 Bisham Junction
  • A2 Brenley Corner
  • A303 Phase 2 upgrade
  • A3/A247 Ripley South
  • A2 Dover Access
  • A27 Lewes to Polegate
  • A27 Chichester improvements
  • M27 Southampton Access
  • A38 Trerulefoot-Carkeel safety package
So am I right in thinking this is the final list? As I know it was mentioned a while ago the schemes would be shortlisted to 30 to go ahead, looking at the list that’s 30!
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I know the A303 upgrades will benefit the West Country, but actually in the SW the only scheme is a safety package on 6 miles of the A38. Levelling up? I don't think so.
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