No-through roads BECOMING NSL
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No-through roads BECOMING NSL
From https://www.instantstreetview.com/@56.5 ... X5dI7p5Xvg (Muirdrum in Angus), it can be seen that the road is signalled as "No through road" and LATER as national speed limit. Presumably this is quite rare. However,
1) I don't see that there will be many people doing 60 mph along this road.
2) I While it's clearly not encouraged (and I did not contemplate this myself), it seems not to be impossible to get a motor vehicle through to Balmachie Road. The GSV vehicle (of whatever nature) has managed.
1) I don't see that there will be many people doing 60 mph along this road.
2) I While it's clearly not encouraged (and I did not contemplate this myself), it seems not to be impossible to get a motor vehicle through to Balmachie Road. The GSV vehicle (of whatever nature) has managed.
Re: No-through roads BECOMING NSL
does not mean 60 is either a safe or target speed. It just means no one has ever bothered to set a lower legal speed limit. I suspect No through Road with a NSL are not that rare.
A No through Road will mean the traffic volume is low, and correspondingly the number of crashes are also low.
A No through Road will mean the traffic volume is low, and correspondingly the number of crashes are also low.
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Re: No-through roads BECOMING NSL
One of the most ludicrous examples is this near me where there a residential cul-de-sac lined with houses which is NSL. The A34 which is the main road was cut from 40 to a very unreasonable 30 ten years ago
https://goo.gl/maps/T6oAdWDuLR8AkiCr5
https://goo.gl/maps/T6oAdWDuLR8AkiCr5
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Re: No-through roads BECOMING NSL
A few examples from Suffolk:
Old A12 through Copdock, speed limit goes from 50 to 70 just before some barriers:
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@52.03795 ... 384!8i8192
Old Norwich Road heading out of Ipswich just up the road from a bus only gate - https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@52.08701 ... 312!8i6656
And on the other side of the restriction:
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@52.10121 ... 384!8i8192
Slaughden Road in Aldeburgh. The speed limit goes from 30 to 60 just before the road becomes gravel and heads down the Orford Ness shingle spit.
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@52.14738 ... 312!8i6656
Old A12 through Copdock, speed limit goes from 50 to 70 just before some barriers:
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@52.03795 ... 384!8i8192
Old Norwich Road heading out of Ipswich just up the road from a bus only gate - https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@52.08701 ... 312!8i6656
And on the other side of the restriction:
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@52.10121 ... 384!8i8192
Slaughden Road in Aldeburgh. The speed limit goes from 30 to 60 just before the road becomes gravel and heads down the Orford Ness shingle spit.
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@52.14738 ... 312!8i6656
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Re: No-through roads BECOMING NSL
I'm trying to remember the sequence of events for this road. There was a time when it was a 50 limit between the edges of Dundee and Arbroath but I THINK that this after AFTER Muirdrum had been bypassed. So the NSL may be continuous from when this piece of road served a totally different purpose ....
Re: No-through roads BECOMING NSL
I knew before clicking the link where you were going to send me. I went past earlier this week and the NSL signs were missing.Truvelo wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 12:36 One of the most ludicrous examples is this near me where there a residential cul-de-sac lined with houses which is NSL. The A34 which is the main road was cut from 40 to a very unreasonable 30 ten years ago
https://goo.gl/maps/T6oAdWDuLR8AkiCr5
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Re: No-through roads BECOMING NSL
Yes, I have posted this on Sabre many times before. Maybe the council finally realised the anomaly in the speed limit and will reduce it to 30. I will have no objection to this. There is an almost identical situation on the A435 near Alcester with another NSL residential cul-de-sac off an A road with a lower speed limit.Big L wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 14:16I knew before clicking the link where you were going to send me. I went past earlier this week and the NSL signs were missing.Truvelo wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 12:36 One of the most ludicrous examples is this near me where there a residential cul-de-sac lined with houses which is NSL. The A34 which is the main road was cut from 40 to a very unreasonable 30 ten years ago
https://goo.gl/maps/T6oAdWDuLR8AkiCr5
https://goo.gl/maps/L47uuK8oMRN5X3yAA
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Totally off-topic, but the uniformity of the lawn stripes in the satellite photo here is quite remarkable. Do they all use the same gardener?!Truvelo wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 14:59Yes, I have posted this on Sabre many times before. Maybe the council finally realised the anomaly in the speed limit and will reduce it to 30. I will have no objection to this. There is an almost identical situation on the A435 near Alcester with another NSL residential cul-de-sac off an A road with a lower speed limit.Big L wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 14:16I knew before clicking the link where you were going to send me. I went past earlier this week and the NSL signs were missing.Truvelo wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 12:36 One of the most ludicrous examples is this near me where there a residential cul-de-sac lined with houses which is NSL. The A34 which is the main road was cut from 40 to a very unreasonable 30 ten years ago
https://goo.gl/maps/T6oAdWDuLR8AkiCr5
https://goo.gl/maps/L47uuK8oMRN5X3yAA
Re: No-through roads BECOMING NSL
How about this one in the Scottish Borders:
https://maps.app.goo.gl/H1qcr9Cfg26gcM7y6
Until late-1995, this was part of the A6091 and was NSL, with a half-mile section being gated off when the road was moved onto a new alignment to the north.
Around the mid-noughties the speed limit was cut from NSL to 30mph and then, more recently, to 20mph. NSL signs were then erected 50 yards or so from the gates that close off the road; you'd be hard-pressed to get up to NSL on this (very) short section.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/H1qcr9Cfg26gcM7y6
Until late-1995, this was part of the A6091 and was NSL, with a half-mile section being gated off when the road was moved onto a new alignment to the north.
Around the mid-noughties the speed limit was cut from NSL to 30mph and then, more recently, to 20mph. NSL signs were then erected 50 yards or so from the gates that close off the road; you'd be hard-pressed to get up to NSL on this (very) short section.
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There’s something quite sinister looking about that! It’s like some government decree that all lawns shall be mown to some official standard.jnty wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 15:43Totally off-topic, but the uniformity of the lawn stripes in the satellite photo here is quite remarkable. Do they all use the same gardener?!
Or probably just the same grounds man.
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Re: No-through roads BECOMING NSL
There's lots of them, such as:
40 to NSL
The same nearby
30 to NSL
40 to NSL
But since these no-through roads clearly have a fraction of the traffic that the through road they join carries, and many of them are a struggle to reach 60 on anyway due to narrowness and/or length, does it really justify the extra orders to apply lower speed limits to them?
40 to NSL
The same nearby
30 to NSL
40 to NSL
But since these no-through roads clearly have a fraction of the traffic that the through road they join carries, and many of them are a struggle to reach 60 on anyway due to narrowness and/or length, does it really justify the extra orders to apply lower speed limits to them?
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Re: No-through roads BECOMING NSL
This dead-end residential road is the example I always give, except I notice the NSL signs have now been removed (scroll forwards to 2021). Does anyone from Staffordshire County Council read this forum?
Is this road still NSL?
Is this road still NSL?
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Re: No-through roads BECOMING NSL
There's no repeaters even though the lighting is less than 200 yards apart.
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Re: No-through roads BECOMING NSL
This one in Greenhead, the NSL being a legacy from when Greenhead Bank was part of the A69.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/rUcVrWSfrV1BgQQAA
https://maps.app.goo.gl/rUcVrWSfrV1BgQQAA
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I know I've posted this one before but I thought it was worth another look
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Re: No-through roads BECOMING NSL
Wasn’t there an instance about 10 years ago, possibly longer, where a driver headed at high speed through a fence onto the East Coast main line, it was a relatively short no through road signed at NSL leading to a closed level crossing. Somewhere near York, I think?
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I posted this a while ago near Delamere forest. Complete with incorrect 60mph roundal instead of NSL.
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Re: No-through roads BECOMING NSL
Came across this one when I was in Much Wenlock recently:
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@52.59776 ... 384!8i8192
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@52.59776 ... 384!8i8192