M60 J10-12 proposed changes
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Re: M60 J10-12 proposed changes
The initial alert we received on site was that only one cable had failed, however obviously it is way more serious. Hopefully with the HSE involved there will be a thorough investigation, this could've easily resulted in many deaths.
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Re: M60 J10-12 proposed changes
Given how wrong the MEN are calling it a 'suspension' bridge you have nothing to worry about.Norfolktolancashire wrote:Something about the supporting cables snapping, not giving me much confidence to cross when completed!wrinkly wrote:Picture
https://twitter.com/TheRealPDog/status/ ... wsrc%5Etfw
More on the MEN site
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/ ... t-11340525
When in use by traffic the bridge deck is supported by the main structure and there is no load on the cables.
As the Ship Canal is in use the bridge deck had to be suspended during the construction phase as the equipment for raising and lowering it has not yet been commissioned.
It will be interesting to see if the extended period under a higher than normal load has caused problems with the cables. ( Normally 10 - 20 min, bridge deck only compared with several weeks with containers and other equipment on it )
Can anyone remember how they did the Centenary Bridge further up the canal, as that would have had the same need to stay open during construction.
Re: M60 J10-12 proposed changes
I don't actually know but the two structures are broadly identical.
There were several containers stacked towards one end and as you say I wonder if a dead load calculation was done incorrectly.
It sounds like it was a sudden and catsastrophic failure rather than a gradual failure but if no one was on it at the time that can only be good fortune.
There were several containers stacked towards one end and as you say I wonder if a dead load calculation was done incorrectly.
It sounds like it was a sudden and catsastrophic failure rather than a gradual failure but if no one was on it at the time that can only be good fortune.
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Lucky Escape
Looks like they had a really lucky escape.....
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/ ... s-11338294
Wonder if this will set it back considerably ?
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/ ... s-11338294
Wonder if this will set it back considerably ?
Re: Lucky Escape
Bound to cause some delay I would have thought, if nothing else there will be a need to review the design and construction techniques to find out how and why the collapse happened. The HSE will need to be reassured that everything has been assessed and a hold on further work will probably be issued until the investigation is complete.
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Re: M60 J10-12 proposed changes
That could have been so much worse if people were caught up in it...shocking!wrinkly wrote:Video of the collapse caught on a dashcam:
https://www.facebook.com/ian.longden1/v ... 423870911/
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Re: M60 J10-12 proposed changes
Stunning video, I can't see the deck being reused and some major repairs will be needed to the towers... Huge claim
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Yes, the whole thing looks to be a write-off...
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Re: M60 J10-12 proposed changes
I was in the area yesterday so I took a look at the state of the collapsed bridge.
The deck had somehow been moved horizontally northwards between the north pair of towers to clear the canal.
I hadn't seen any reference to the move on here, or on the Greater Manchester Transport subforum of Skyscrapercity, but I've now looked on the Port Salford thread, which is on a part of Skyscrapercity I don't regularly read. There's some relevant discussion and pictures on this page.
A ship, the Arklow Vale, has been trapped at Salford, and the website marinetraffic.com is still showing it there, so perhaps the canal is not yet fully clear.
The deck had somehow been moved horizontally northwards between the north pair of towers to clear the canal.
I hadn't seen any reference to the move on here, or on the Greater Manchester Transport subforum of Skyscrapercity, but I've now looked on the Port Salford thread, which is on a part of Skyscrapercity I don't regularly read. There's some relevant discussion and pictures on this page.
A ship, the Arklow Vale, has been trapped at Salford, and the website marinetraffic.com is still showing it there, so perhaps the canal is not yet fully clear.
Re: M60 J10-12 proposed changes
The ship that was upstream of the bridge site is still there. The canal is evidently still being treated as blocked. It's reported on Skyscrapercity that a forklift fell into the canal and is lost in the silt at the bottom. Divers have tried to find it but have so far failed.
Re: M60 J10-12 proposed changes
The Ship Canal is now unblocked at the lift bridge site. The trapped Arklow Vale is gone.
Re: M60 J10-12 proposed changes
The towers of the lift bridge have reportedly been stripped of equipment in preparation for demolition.
Re: M60 J10-12 proposed changes
Wow, didn't realise that they were leveling it and starting again. I'm guessing there was no hope of a repair.
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I wouldn't want to be the project manager, that's for sure.
Career ending?
Career ending?
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Re: M60 J10-12 proposed changes
This information came from people posting on Skyscrapercity. On the other hand, user "isambard" has posted this cutting there:wrinkly wrote:The towers of the lift bridge have reportedly been stripped of equipment in preparation for demolition.
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost. ... count=1149
Re: M60 J10-12 proposed changes
All four towers still at full height. I've no idea what if anything is going on. Maybe they can't be touched until all investigations are complete.