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Re: Botched Roadsigns

Post by Al__S » Sun Feb 10, 2019 13:01

Chris5156 wrote:
Sun Feb 10, 2019 12:28
Al__S wrote:
Sat Feb 09, 2019 16:48
Pilgrim Dan wrote:
Fri Feb 08, 2019 20:23
Is this really how a horizontal line is meant to be used?
A little further on, can anyone explain?
That’s very simple. It means red buses are on the left and blue buses are straight on. It’s only a problem if you’re looking for green or yellow buses, because they aren’t signposted.
What about purple buses?

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Re: Botched Roadsigns

Post by telfordboi » Sun Feb 10, 2019 13:11

Don’t see many signed U turns

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Re: Botched Roadsigns

Post by Pilgrim Dan » Sun Feb 10, 2019 13:27

Al__S wrote:
Sun Feb 10, 2019 13:01
Chris5156 wrote:
Sun Feb 10, 2019 12:28
Al__S wrote:
Sat Feb 09, 2019 16:48


A little further on, can anyone explain?
That’s very simple. It means red buses are on the left and blue buses are straight on. It’s only a problem if you’re looking for green or yellow buses, because they aren’t signposted.
What about purple buses?
Since the closure of the bus station and its associated coach park, the black bus symbol leads to the coach station (service coaches only), red to the city centre set down/pick up and blue to the histroric Barbican area set down/pick up.
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Re: Botched Roadsigns

Post by Al__S » Sun Feb 10, 2019 15:59

Pilgrim Dan wrote:
Sun Feb 10, 2019 13:27
Al__S wrote:
Sun Feb 10, 2019 13:01
Chris5156 wrote:
Sun Feb 10, 2019 12:28

That’s very simple. It means red buses are on the left and blue buses are straight on. It’s only a problem if you’re looking for green or yellow buses, because they aren’t signposted.
What about purple buses?
Since the closure of the bus station and its associated coach park, the black bus symbol leads to the coach station (service coaches only), red to the city centre set down/pick up and blue to the histroric Barbican area set down/pick up.
Presumably there's an explainer sign or two on approach roads?

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Re: Botched Roadsigns

Post by scragend » Sun Feb 10, 2019 17:52

For Birmingham follow M6 (S)

Good advice, except that the next gantry sign (just after the sign above), refers to "Birmingham (M6)", and then all subsequent ones between that point and the M62 just refer to "(M6)". None of them uses the expression "M6 (S)". So it isn't actually possible to follow what the sign tells you to follow.

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Re: Botched Roadsigns

Post by Pilgrim Dan » Sun Feb 10, 2019 20:29

Al__S wrote:
Sun Feb 10, 2019 15:59
Pilgrim Dan wrote:
Sun Feb 10, 2019 13:27
Al__S wrote:
Sun Feb 10, 2019 13:01

What about purple buses?
Since the closure of the bus station and its associated coach park, the black bus symbol leads to the coach station (service coaches only), red to the city centre set down/pick up and blue to the histroric Barbican area set down/pick up.
Presumably there's an explainer sign or two on approach roads?
Presumably

And here you can see all 3 varients together.

Incidentally, red and blue are also used to distinguish between the 2 main bus companies on bus stops in Plymouth.
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Re: Botched Roadsigns

Post by Bendo » Mon Feb 11, 2019 09:35

Bridge tolls 1 mile just before the 100 yard marker? https://www.google.com/maps/@53.3612905 ... 312!8i6656

Fairly sure that 100 yard marker has been moved backwards and the blue 1 mile sign is now located after the 100 yard marker.

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Re: Botched Roadsigns

Post by Chris Bertram » Mon Feb 11, 2019 09:43

Owain wrote:
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A171 needs brackets.

They've understood the concept with "(A173)", so there's not really any excuse!
Ah, Loftus, I used to live very close to there. In this case, it looks to me like they're indicating A171 as a destination in its own right. You have to pass *through* Liverton (and Liverton Mines) to get to it. However, the lack of a destination for A171 to lead to is telling - either you'd use it to get to Whitby, which you could as easily get to by turning round on yourself, or as a long way round to Guisborough, which is signed straight ahead anyway. Or you'd use it for a short distance before turning off to reach one of the small villages in the Esk valley which aren't big enough to warrant signing in their own right.

So it's not necessarily incorrect, but it is odd.
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Re: Botched Roadsigns

Post by Owain » Mon Feb 11, 2019 11:01

Chris Bertram wrote:
Mon Feb 11, 2019 09:43
Owain wrote:
Sat Feb 09, 2019 22:53
A171 needs brackets.

They've understood the concept with "(A173)", so there's not really any excuse!
Ah, Loftus, I used to live very close to there. In this case, it looks to me like they're indicating A171 as a destination in its own right. You have to pass *through* Liverton (and Liverton Mines) to get to it. However, the lack of a destination for A171 to lead to is telling - either you'd use it to get to Whitby, which you could as easily get to by turning round on yourself, or as a long way round to Guisborough, which is signed straight ahead anyway. Or you'd use it for a short distance before turning off to reach one of the small villages in the Esk valley which aren't big enough to warrant signing in their own right.

So it's not necessarily incorrect, but it is odd.
I had a very enjoyable drive up the Yorkshire coast on Saturday (before ending up in Ulverston!). Some great views from both the A171 and A174.
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Re: Botched Roadsigns

Post by Chris Bertram » Mon Feb 11, 2019 11:06

Owain wrote:
Mon Feb 11, 2019 11:01
Chris Bertram wrote:
Mon Feb 11, 2019 09:43
Owain wrote:
Sat Feb 09, 2019 22:53
A171 needs brackets.

They've understood the concept with "(A173)", so there's not really any excuse!
Ah, Loftus, I used to live very close to there. In this case, it looks to me like they're indicating A171 as a destination in its own right. You have to pass *through* Liverton (and Liverton Mines) to get to it. However, the lack of a destination for A171 to lead to is telling - either you'd use it to get to Whitby, which you could as easily get to by turning round on yourself, or as a long way round to Guisborough, which is signed straight ahead anyway. Or you'd use it for a short distance before turning off to reach one of the small villages in the Esk valley which aren't big enough to warrant signing in their own right.

So it's not necessarily incorrect, but it is odd.
I had a very enjoyable drive up the Yorkshire coast on Saturday (before ending up in Ulverston!). Some great views from both the A171 and A174.
They're both very scenic. From Guisborough you are (or were, at least) given the choice of "Whitby (via coast)" which is A173/A174, or "Whitby (via moors)" which is A171. The latter would normally be faster, the road is straighter and passes through fewer settlements, but does have a higher risk of being closed by snow. From Loftus it might *just* be quicker to get to Whitby that way, but that's not how your sign is showing it, and in the reverse direction surely A174 will be signed to Whitby (in the next village, Easington, it goes past my old house).
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Re: Botched Roadsigns

Post by nick_dunn » Mon Feb 11, 2019 12:36

On the subject of missing brackets, call me pedantic for the sake of 100yds or so but this isn't quite the B4043 at this stage. Not sure how it should read though - would Kidderminster (B4043)(A456) be correct?

Whilst I'm here I'll just state these two constant annoyances in my life. This isn't quite the A458 at this point, it's more of a spur of the A459.

And this is just plain wrong, it's the A459.

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Re: Botched Roadsigns

Post by Chris Bertram » Mon Feb 11, 2019 14:56

nick_dunn wrote:
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And this is just plain wrong, it's the A459.
Yes, it is. It has never been anything other than A459 since road classifications were brought in. (And it's another location close to where I once lived, Sedgley in this case. Turn next left, halfway down the hill ...)
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Re: Botched Roadsigns

Post by vlad » Mon Feb 11, 2019 19:09

As we're talking about brackets, they're on the wrong road on this sign.
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Re: Botched Roadsigns

Post by Euan » Tue Feb 12, 2019 22:41

vlad wrote:
Mon Feb 11, 2019 19:09
As we're talking about brackets, they're on the wrong road on this sign.
That definitely looks like a mistake. It could be argued that even if the brackets were on the right road that eastbound "A523" should also appear on the sign but unbracketed. The question is whether at that stage it is close enough to the end of the road that it makes sense just to sign and bracket the number of the coming route. It does happen in other places, but usually not until very close to the junction of the number change.
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Re: Botched Roadsigns

Post by Euan » Tue Feb 12, 2019 22:42

nick_dunn wrote:
Mon Feb 11, 2019 12:36
And this is just plain wrong, it's the A459.
At least that sign is fairly simple to sort out - just turn the "6" upside down!
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Re: Botched Roadsigns

Post by Big L » Thu Feb 14, 2019 20:49

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Re: Botched Roadsigns

Post by Al__S » Thu Feb 14, 2019 22:05

That causes physical pain

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Re: Botched Roadsigns

Post by Dougman » Fri Feb 15, 2019 09:15

Big L wrote:
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So much wrong in such little space.
Not to mention the "20 zone" signs in the background. I doubt that they would even be lawful if someone was prosecuted for speeding there? Oh, and we'll ignore the keep left bollard on the island.
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Post by Big L » Fri Feb 15, 2019 16:13

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Re: Botched Roadsigns

Post by jgharston » Sat Feb 16, 2019 21:59

Dougman wrote:
Fri Feb 15, 2019 09:15
Big L wrote:
Thu Feb 14, 2019 20:49
So much wrong in such little space.
Not to mention the "20 zone" signs in the background. I doubt that they would even be lawful if someone was prosecuted for speeding there? Oh, and we'll ignore the keep left bollard on the island.
Looks like a shopping centre further along. Private road?

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