Road Works Lamps

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Road Works Lamps

Post by Dorman-Smith » Tue Feb 19, 2019 18:33

Good Evening
My first post here, I am a collector of road lamps, but have an interest in street lighting, time switches, switchgear etc. basically... a bit of an anorak :-)
Anyway.. have road works regs changed over the past few years, once upon a time all roadworks and even pavement works had flashing warning lamps, nowadays where I live you just don't see anything other than on some scaffolding and skips?
I don't know if there are any road lamp collectors on here or am I in a very small minority :-)
If there are, I am desperately looking for 1970s plastic Dorman Smith Trafilamp parts, mainly I need the innards with the bulb, switch etc. but even a complete lamp would be great as I have an Ex PO lamp I am restoring.
If there are any ex GPO engineers here maybe you could tell me if these early lights flashed or were static, I know later BT lamps were static.
I look forward to participating here and appreciate in advance any help.
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Re: Road Works Lamps

Post by traffic-light-man » Wed Feb 20, 2019 11:09

Hi there and welcome to SABRE!

I have a large collection of warning lamps, though they're not to hand. I have a complete blue and a complete amber Dorman Smith 1970s TrafiLamp. I've never tried, but is it possible to fit the late 90s style TrafiLite innards to the older TrafiLamp bodies? Might get your lamp working again if they do!

As for regulations, I agree, the lamps are not as prominent as they once were, but the Traffic Signs Manual Chapter 8 still states the following:
TSM Chapter 8 wrote:O4.7.1 The outer boundary of the works site, temporary fences, barriers etc. should always be marked by
the addition of warning lights during the hours of darkness; refer to Part 1: Design, Section D3.12. The full
width and length of the obstruction shall be clearly indicated by lights. It is important that the lights are placed
correctly on top of the cones with the lens facing the oncoming traffic. On a dual carriageway, if distraction
of drivers on the other carriageway is likely to be a problem then uni-directional warning lights, and not bidirectional
or omni-directional, should be used.
Simon :driving:

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Re: Road Works Lamps

Post by Dorman-Smith » Wed Feb 20, 2019 11:53

Hi Simon
Thanks for your post.
Another lamp collector :-)
I would like to keep mine as original as possible, I think the later Trafilite inserts are too different from the Trafilamps unfortunately. I will keep looking, I just need clarification on whether the 70s PO Trafilamps were flashing or static, as I know the later BT branded were static.
As for road works warning lamps, the regs look quite clear from your post, it is strange not many, (if any locally) adhere to them.
All the best
Rob

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Re: Road Works Lamps

Post by Conekicker » Wed Feb 20, 2019 13:02

The Traffic Signs Manual, Chapter 8, Part 3, specifically Section U2.14, has changed the requirement for warning lamps. Although almost all of the industry simply reads it as, "You can just omit the lamps", without actually reading carefully what U2.14 says, which is most certainly not, "You can just omit the lamps".

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Re: Road Works Lamps

Post by Glenn A » Sat Mar 16, 2019 16:54

I used to like the red oil lamps that were used into the eighties and once took a damaged one home. Also I can remember when a generator was used to power temporary traffic lights( Hydrovane seemed to be the main supplier).

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Re: Road Works Lamps

Post by Dorman-Smith » Sun Sep 01, 2019 10:41

Hi
I am still looking to buy road lamps to add to my collection, I thought I had some lined up but the deal sadly didn't happen. If anyone has any battery lamps they don't require, please message me with a photo of them. I am looking for red and blue lamps too.
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Re: Road Works Lamps

Post by Sulzer:1999 » Wed Sep 11, 2019 07:31

I received an old red oil roadworks lamp from my friend as a birthday gift the other day!

Murray Duncan

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