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"Bypass" signs

Post by crb11 » Sun Jul 18, 2021 16:58

I came across this sign on the A69 on a recent trip. The only other ones I've seen have been in Scotland, so I assumed they were just a Scottish thing. Does it in fact signify "bypass" and are there other examples outside Scotland?
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Re: "Bypass" signs

Post by Chris5156 » Sun Jul 18, 2021 17:01

Yes, it indicates a town that has been bypassed, and which you can choose to pass through before rejoining your original route.

I think you’ll see them mostly in Scotland because they were a Scottish innovation, and specifically came about because villages bypassed by various road improvements were concerned about the loss of passing trade. The idea was that it didn’t just tell you a village was off to the left or right, it also told you that you could call in there and then be on your way again.

Originally they were authorised only in Scotland but they now appear in TSRGD. Even so, I think use outside Scotland is still very limited.

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Re: "Bypass" signs

Post by jervi » Sun Jul 18, 2021 18:49

I want to say I've seen one on the A1 near Cromwell, although looking on GSV I can't seem to find one.
But Northbound on the A1 for Cromwell would be an ideal place for one.

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Re: "Bypass" signs

Post by crb11 » Sun Jul 18, 2021 19:16

Thanks for the info, Chris.

I drove the bulk of the A1 on the same trip (A14 junction to just short of the Scottish border) so can be reasonably confident there isn't one at Cromwell or indeed anywhere else in England.
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Re: "Bypass" signs

Post by Bryn666 » Sun Jul 18, 2021 19:42

crb11 wrote:
Sun Jul 18, 2021 19:16
Thanks for the info, Chris.

I drove the bulk of the A1 on the same trip (A14 junction to just short of the Scottish border) so can be reasonably confident there isn't one at Cromwell or indeed anywhere else in England.
I am fairly sure I have seen one in England. I'm now racking my brains where though.
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Re: "Bypass" signs

Post by crb11 » Sun Jul 18, 2021 19:45

Bryn666 wrote:
Sun Jul 18, 2021 19:42
crb11 wrote:
Sun Jul 18, 2021 19:16
Thanks for the info, Chris.

I drove the bulk of the A1 on the same trip (A14 junction to just short of the Scottish border) so can be reasonably confident there isn't one at Cromwell or indeed anywhere else in England.
I am fairly sure I have seen one in England. I'm now racking my brains where though.
Sorry, I meant anywhere else on the A1 in England.
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Re: "Bypass" signs

Post by Bryn666 » Sun Jul 18, 2021 20:10

crb11 wrote:
Sun Jul 18, 2021 19:45
Bryn666 wrote:
Sun Jul 18, 2021 19:42
crb11 wrote:
Sun Jul 18, 2021 19:16
Thanks for the info, Chris.

I drove the bulk of the A1 on the same trip (A14 junction to just short of the Scottish border) so can be reasonably confident there isn't one at Cromwell or indeed anywhere else in England.
I am fairly sure I have seen one in England. I'm now racking my brains where though.
Sorry, I meant anywhere else on the A1 in England.
Ah yes - funnily enough I could've sworn I'd seen one in Lincolnshire (not on the A1) but it's not springing to mind where at all.
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Re: "Bypass" signs

Post by Glen » Sun Jul 18, 2021 21:50

The sign shows that a route into a bypassed town or village allows you to rejoin to main route beyond it, rather than it being somewhere that you would have to double back from.

The signs have been used in Scotland since I think the 1980s and has been in TSRGD since 1994.

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Re: "Bypass" signs

Post by sydneynick » Mon Jul 19, 2021 01:48

We have similar signs along the Hume Motorway at Goulburn and Mittagong and other towns.
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Re: "Bypass" signs

Post by A42_Sparks » Fri Jul 23, 2021 17:24

Glen wrote:
Sun Jul 18, 2021 21:50
The signs have been used in Scotland since I think the 1980s
Sounds right, the first 'bypass' sign I saw was somewhere on the A75 between Stranraer and Dumfries in July 1987. I can't remember exactly what village it was, even after a look on Google Streetview.

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Re: "Bypass" signs

Post by OliverH » Fri Jul 23, 2021 17:59

A42_Sparks wrote:
Fri Jul 23, 2021 17:24
Glen wrote:
Sun Jul 18, 2021 21:50
The signs have been used in Scotland since I think the 1980s
Sounds right, the first 'bypass' sign I saw was somewhere on the A75 between Stranraer and Dumfries in July 1987. I can't remember exactly what village it was, even after a look on Google Streetview.
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Re: "Bypass" signs

Post by A42_Sparks » Fri Jul 23, 2021 18:56

OliverH wrote:
Fri Jul 23, 2021 17:59
this?
Not that one, I was actually travelling in the other direction and it was a smaller village than Gatehouse of Fleet.

I can remember the A75 curved round to the left with the village also on the left side of the A75 but at a lower elevation.

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Re: "Bypass" signs

Post by OliverH » Fri Jul 23, 2021 20:29

A42_Sparks wrote:
Fri Jul 23, 2021 18:56
OliverH wrote:
Fri Jul 23, 2021 17:59
this?
Not that one, I was actually travelling in the other direction and it was a smaller village than Gatehouse of Fleet.

I can remember the A75 curved round to the left with the village also on the left side of the A75 but at a lower elevation.
this then: https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@54.92604 ... authuser=0

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Re: "Bypass" signs

Post by A42_Sparks » Fri Jul 23, 2021 20:56

OliverH wrote:
Fri Jul 23, 2021 20:29
this then: https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@54.92604 ... authuser=0
Not that one either sorry - it was on the opposite side of the road, i.e. turning left off the eastbound A75.

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Re: "Bypass" signs

Post by A42_Sparks » Fri Jul 23, 2021 23:34

I finally found it, it was for Glenluce.

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Re: "Bypass" signs

Post by OliverH » Sun Jul 25, 2021 19:25

A42_Sparks wrote:
Fri Jul 23, 2021 23:34
I finally found it, it was for Glenluce.
I'm annoyed that I did not see the sign when I was looking at GM & GSV.

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Re: "Bypass" signs

Post by dereer » Mon Jul 26, 2021 15:20

There is one on the Northern Irish A5 for Newtownstewart. https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@54.72367 ... 384!8i8192
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Re: "Bypass" signs

Post by Peter Freeman » Mon Jul 26, 2021 16:15

sydneynick wrote:
Mon Jul 19, 2021 01:48
We have similar signs along the Hume Motorway at Goulburn and Mittagong and other towns.
This signage is now quite common in Australia. Note that one of sydneynick's links shows an additional feature that's also becoming common: the distance on each leg to the bypassed town, which may assure you that you're not wasting too much time.

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Re: "Bypass" signs

Post by crazyknightsfan » Tue Jul 27, 2021 06:46

I believe the "bypass" signs were in use in certain Australian states before 1987, so this might be the only(?) example of an Australian signing practice being adopted in the UK rather than the other way around?

I'm not quite sure when they first appeared in Australia (probably Victoria) but they were incorporated in the first AS1742.8 (1990) but not in the preceding standard from 1978.

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